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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:45 pm
by jbuonacc
i'd rather not use external devices with it (other than hooking up my CD-ROM every once in a while) if i can help it, but why do you suggest that? i'm sure there's a good amount of older E-mu's out there that have internal HDs running fine, not sure what happened to the one in mine though.

scsi upgrade kit?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:48 pm
by e64_eli
jbuonacc wrote:ahh, my problem is having my nose stuck in this ancient 2.50 manual that i got with it. :grin: checked out the EOS4 manual again - while they totally overhauled and expanded the sequencer (i'd say it rivals the MPC and others in many regards), they totally botched the looping function. if i'm lucky it'll default to sequence start and end points and i can just switch it 'on' at power-up. i'll have to play around with it.

it's not possible to mute more than one track at a time is it? ie - having tracks 1-5 playing, then immedietely dropping out tracks 3 and 5 in real-time? as far as i can see you have to move the cursor to the track you want to mute and then change it.


Yes it is basicly like a MPC in a sense but better in some regards, Before the MPC2000 the MPC60/MPC3000 had no loop feature either. Also you can mute any tracks you want not just one at a time, even if that were the case you have a multimode midi mixer, you can get around almost anything is what i'm getting at.

yes, it seems like a great sequencer though. i may just have to make more use out of it than i'd originally planned...

about the HD - would a smaller capacity drive use less power, making it safer to use with an internal Zip? should i look into upgrading my power supply?


Just make things easier and get yourself a cheap scsi 3.5" drive and a external zip if need be, obviously the machine was not designed to have a zip in place of the floppy so there could be issues, I have a 4gb internal scsi and its more then enough. Also the emu hd kit is long gone, just a cable and mounting screws, no big deal! If you look inside you'll see the holes to mount the drive to the side of the case.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:57 am
by jbuonacc
eh... not sure if it'll work the way i was thinking. i got the loop function to work nicely (too bad it doesn't save, but it can be set up pretty quickly when you load them), but i was getting hanging notes when using the Mute function. i guess it doesn't send a note-off when it mutes, or something like that. this makes it useless for what i was doing on other sequencers (maybe this was fixed later on?). it sync'd up great with the Nord, just hope it won't choke once i start sending it a bunch of midi CCs, etc at the same time. there's definitely some workarounds like (as you suggested) stringing the shorter sequences together or recording real-time data from the Nord as a long sequence that i'll look into more in the future.

what's the 'multi-mode midi mixer'? couldn't get the velocity offset levels to work as a 'mixer' if that's what you meant.

yes, i'm thinking a new HD and an external Zip (for transferring files) is the way to go for now.

[i don't have any quick way to un-zip folders on this pc at the moment, and it doesn't look like Win-Zip is free anymore. is anyone able to email me a stable 'classic' OS (for use on a non-Ultra e4X) later than 4.10? would 4.61 work, and could it simply be transferred to a floppy to boot in the sampler? if anyone's able to help out on that, my email is jbuonaccorso AT hotmail.com...]

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:51 pm
by e64_eli
yes, i'm thinking a new HD and an external Zip (for transferring files) is the way to go for now.

[i don't have any quick way to un-zip folders on this pc at the moment, and it doesn't look like Win-Zip is free anymore. is anyone able to email me a stable 'classic' OS (for use on a non-Ultra e4X) later than 4.10? would 4.61 work, and could it simply be transferred to a floppy to boot in the sampler? if anyone's able to help out on that, my email is jbuonaccorso AT hotmail.com...]



4.62 is the final EOS for the classics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:52 pm
by e64_eli
yes, i'm thinking a new HD and an external Zip (for transferring files) is the way to go for now.

[i don't have any quick way to un-zip folders on this pc at the moment, and it doesn't look like Win-Zip is free anymore. is anyone able to email me a stable 'classic' OS (for use on a non-Ultra e4X) later than 4.10? would 4.61 work, and could it simply be transferred to a floppy to boot in the sampler? if anyone's able to help out on that, my email is jbuonaccorso AT hotmail.com...]



4.62 is the final EOS for the classics

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:24 am
by jbuonacc
ahh, i see it's not as easy as just putting a file on a floppy. i'd need to download the related files and create an E-mu boot disk using the .exe, correct? i'll try to figure it out.

there doesn't seem to be a 4.62 (for the classic) on this site. should i not use 4.61?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:16 am
by jbuonacc
found the 4.62 and Flash Prep .exe's here amongst the threads. it seems i was able to make the two disks, but both were ignored by the e4X at boot-up. any idea why this wouldn't work?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:01 pm
by altus
jbuonacc wrote:found the 4.62 and Flash Prep .exe's here amongst the threads. it seems i was able to make the two disks, but both were ignored by the e4X at boot-up. any idea why this wouldn't work?


You have to format them in the E-mu first before writing the stuff to them.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:03 pm
by jbuonacc
hmm... actually that was the first thing i tried, formatting both disks in the E-mu then writing to them with the PC (FlashPrep and 4.62). after that didn't work i tried again, but this time formatting them in the PC. still no luck, all disks were ignored on boot-up.

i checked to make sure i had 4mb RAM and 2mb Flash in the 'about' screen, everything looks ok. not sure what the problem could be.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:18 pm
by e64_eli
There is a problem with that EOS 4.62 on emu.com pm me and I'll get you a floppy copy.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:05 am
by jbuonacc
thanks for the help e64_eli, but i got the files from ezman's post here:

viewtopic.php?t=368&highlight=flash+prep

and followed these instructions that i found in another post:

"Successfully updated my Emu with the files from the Emu site, follow these steps (by Fabrice Bernet Technical Support E-MU Systems);

First of all you will need to format 2 floppy discs. 1 for the Flash
Prep and one for the EOS.

Create the FlashPrep disc and then the Eos disc folowing these steps.

1. Download the files and uncompress if necessary.
2. Place a high density floppy in your floppy drive
3. Launch the EOS/FlashPrep executable (.exe) and type the drive letter
"a" of your floppy drive.
4) label each disc

Then lace the floppy "Flash Prep" in your sampler and turn it on. Always
use Flash Prep 1st when required as part of your OS upgrade.

The sampler will tell you it has detected a flash prep.
When you get the "Burn to Flash", say Yes
If it ask you if you want to do a copy, say No.

Then turn off the Sampler and place the floppy "EOS" in your sampler and
turn it on to complete the EOS installation."


used both E-mu and PC formatted floppies. the sampler didn't even recognize the Flash Prep disk, didn't get as far as needing to load the EOS 4.62 disk (though i tried that as well for the hell of it). it just keeps booting up as normal, proudly stating that it's running EOS 4.10a... i know the drive works, i've been able to save and load small samples with it. no idea what i'm doing wrong, the PC apps seem to work fine when creating the disks.