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setting up your outputs.

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:15 pm
by crytek
I don't know how to route the outputs on my emu.


Basically, there is this nice kit that i put togeather in my emu and i want to route each sound to have a dedicated output (kick, snare..etc....). I don't know how I would assign each hit in the emu to an output. Further more, when I bring up cubase, and select the input, I really don't see how I could select my other outputs from my audiophile.


could use the help.

thanks

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:58 am
by rod.hull
Unfortunately I dont think you can achieve what you want this way with the gear you have. Unless you have a mixer but even then it wont be much (any?) easier than the alternative method. Your Audiophile has only one set of stereo inputs, so although your Emu has many you cant connect them into your computer at the same time. That was one of the reasons I suggested an ADAT interface on a previous thread of yours (ADAT gives you 8 digital channels in and out over one lightpipe). Although given you already have the Audiophile it seems a shame to spend more just for that. If you had a mixer you could connect all the emu outs into that and take an output from the mixer into your audiophile and then solo the channels you want to record. But as I guess you are controlling via midi you can just put your midi drums on seperate tracks and solo them instead. Of course either of these methods mean you'll have to run record X times where X is the number of tracks you need.

In summary: to record live multiple tracks from external gear/microphones at the same time within a computer you need at least as many inputs on your audio interface.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:24 am
by crytek
if I had a mixer though, I could set each instrument in a preset (or a particular sound) to a certain output right? I know that my audio interface is VERY limited as far as in's and outs go, but I could use the two mono ins right. Just set a certain sound to a particular out, and just record maybe two tracks at a time?

I'm going to look into the ADATS you mentioned eariler.


Thanks

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:31 pm
by rod.hull
You are right in your description of what a mixer would offer you, but....

Are you using Cubase to sequence the Drums?

If so I dont think a mixer will offer you any advantage.

Just solo each drum (I think you can do that within Cubase on a Midi Drum Track or you might have to split the drum track into seperate midi tracks for each drum - which I know Cubase can do with a function - Explode by Channel(??)). Then you just solo the midi tracks whilst recording. All within Cubase. I think you could record two mono tracks at a time this way either by panning your drum sounds to the extreme right and left in the emu (someone else please correct me if I'm wrong I only ever record stereo output from my emu) or by assigning them to two sub outs and connecting your cable pair to them instead. Obviously record matching pairs at each run (one drum right one left). If that works then a template for your drum kits and a resulting workflow should be pretty straightforward and you'll rarely miss a multi out solution.

So I wouldn't recommend a mixer (a multi in analogue interface or ADAT option would be your next move. But I don't think you need them either) I only mentioned it to help explain the Multi Outs to one input situation and to illustrate that if you are sequencing with Cubase you already have similar functionality. I think I could have been clearer - sorry.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:13 pm
by rod.hull
Afterthought:

If you have the AES/EBU option then you could get an adapter that would convert to spdif that you could input to your audiophile. With two sub outs to the analogue ins that would give you 4 channels (2 digital) for less than ADAT.

there is one on ebay now - dont rush to buy it though as it looks like a repeat item and at a pretty typical price. Just here to illustrate.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MAudio-CO3-AES-EBU-S-PDIF-optical-converter_W0QQitemZ150000023130QQcategoryZ41784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It looks like it would operate in both directions so you could sample digital audio too. Do try getting by without first and be sure that you need more channels before buying and then be sure that you get enough for your needs. On a positive note if you hold out for a good auction price for an adapter its the kind of thing that you'll probably be able to sell for as much as you paid for it in a few years (unlike most other electronic/computer gear).