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tr808 amen break...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:35 am
by sampleandhold
well the break is more for a demo then anything. what i have just done, it took me about a half an hour to do, and it should take anyone else that follows what i say about ten to fifteen minutes, maybe less to do.

what i have done, is recreated the tr808 snare and kick on the emu using just the test tones, and a little white noise. this is how you do it:

sample your test tones, or go to the bank with all your test tones sample and get the sine.

load it

now go into sample edit and select cut. what you want to do is cut the wave in the begainning. for best results (really it matters on personal taste) cut the wave at the crest of one of it's cycles. basically were the bell curve is at it's highest. or lowest. whatever.

now after you have done that, you want to copy it. once you have done that you should place the first sine at C1 and the second sine at D1 (humour me on this bit, just this time, also make sure you sampled your sines at 440.0)

origins for the first sine should be set at A3

origins for the second sine should be set at G#3

now go and turn on your tv and unhook your cable, really i mean this. find a station that will not come in at all, nothing but static and white noise. take any recording device, cd burner, md, or hell even your sampler and hook it up to the audio outs on the tv. sample the white noise. do about ten seconds or so, doesn't really matter.

now place your white noise sample with the second sine at D1. you should get a window that pops up and asks you if you want the voices to overlap. you do.

set your origin of white noise to D2

okay now go into preset edit on your first sine, the C1 sine, and go to the adsr amp enevelope screen. set it up like this:

atk1 0 0 atk2 0 100
dcy1 65 0 dcy2 0 0
rls1 20 0 rls2 0 0

now go back to the multimode screen and hit C1... sounds like a kick dosen't it?

now go to the voice edit on the second sine and set up the adsr exactly the same as the kick except for the dcy1 should be 20 0

now go into the voice edit of the whitenoise sample and set up the adsr exactly as the kick except for dcy1 should be 35 0.

in the preset edit window, you should set the second sines fine tune i believe, i forgot this part damnit, so about 28 or 29.

now go into group edit. basically you want to highlight the bit that says g1 all the way down in the preset edit window. you will now make a change that will affect all the samples. i like this feature.
this is what you want to do here.
set the first chord

vel<=ampvol=36%

(i perfer this better then the default setting, seems to change volume better and goes quiter the softer you hit the keys)
then go to the chord were the vel< is suppose to control fenv. i believe that is chord 5. you should set that at

vel<=envdcy=-30%

what that is going to do is shorten the lenght of the sounds the lighter you hit the keys but maintain the current lenght.

what you should end up with is a better sounding example then the one i will attach to this... well i can't seem to find that option. if i can't i will post it on doa so you guys can hear.

and this is how you make your very own tr808 kick and snare.
the toms, just use that second sine with out any white noise. and i believe if you go really high with the sine you can actaully make the cymbals.
i hope you guys dig this, and i hope you guys have fun with it too.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:38 am
by sampleandhold
okay, fine go to the thread on doa that says tr808 amen.
does anyone know how to post any kind of attachment on this thing. i can't see any option for this at all...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:55 am
by sampleandhold
never mind, i can't get it to work at all. if anybody is interested i will email the example to them...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:08 pm
by madmax
this is interesting -email me a sample pls.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:57 pm
by nads
Me too please!!!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 3:11 am
by sampleandhold
nads...
i don't have your email address...
gimme...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:30 am
by ezman
Can you send me the sample
ezman@emusonacid.co.uk
Then I will upload it to some other webspace I got and add a link in this thread. I'm trying to work out a better way of doing this (and keep the bandwidth on this site below 5gb a month) , but in the meantime that's what I can do!

Thanks,
Ezman

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 8:22 pm
by sampleandhold
yeah ezman... i am going to mess around with audio. i gave a bad recording off my digital camera to madmax.. but it does sound bad, and i would like to have you guys, even madmax. get a better recording. i am going to try to get my cakewalk to convert it's audio down to wave or something so that you can convert it to something you can post here... i will get back with you soon.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:49 am
by ezman
Nice one sampleandhold - sounds wicked :slayer:

Here is a link for anyone wanting to hear the results of this experiment! (Thanks for the file sampleandhold)

http://www.emusonacid.co.uk/files/tr808.wav

Ezman

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 4:39 pm
by madmax
thnx SnH,

I havn't gotten a chance to take a listen yet but I'll let you know ...