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E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:52 pm
by lhkmusic
Decided to dust down my E6400 Ultra which I haven't used since I upgrade from a G4 to a G5.

First Post !!

Are there any Mac compatible Firewire/USB > SCSI adapters on the market to transfer samples to and from the mac ?

Also I have been searching the forum for any info of installing an Internal IDE drive without trying to find the upgrade kit, from what I have read you have to reverse the polarity of the power supply inside the sampler? Is that right the thread I found had a link to a tutorial of how to do this but alas the link was dead !

Thread located here - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=873&hilit=fitting+IDE+drive+into+E6400+without+IDE+kit

I really want to get the EMU up and running again as it's sounds so much fatter than running my beats out of the mac.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any help,

Cheers

Liam.

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:44 pm
by paulsynth
U need to reverse red cable an yellow cable. Black are negative, in pc red is 5v, for emu its 12 v and yellow is 12 volt for pc but for emu its 5 volt.
If u connect the molex bad, you risk to damage your drive.
look this

http://www.peterandrew.com/music/studio ... Powercable

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:18 pm
by lhkmusic
thanks for the reply mate, installed a drive no problems. Also got a Adaptec 29160N Mac Edition SCSI off ebay and the mac sees it, just need to get a cable to connect the mac and sampler and see if I have any joy transfering samples...

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:03 pm
by lhkmusic
*update-

finally managed to get a cable to connect the mac and E6400 but the Ultra hangs on boot up when connected, not a total crash though. If I shutdown the mac. the ultra quickly boots, as soon as the mac is turned on the EMU freezes again until the mac is shut down....

weird...

all I wanna do is load the EMU up with my sample library...

nightmare

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:34 pm
by jamie8286
yup i think this is a big problem with mac and emu same setup as im running. Sure everyone on here would like to know how you get on keep us updated.

cheers Jamie

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:18 pm
by lhkmusic
*update

Well I finally have the Mac and EMU talking to each other and I'm able to send samples to and from the EMU...

This is on a dual 2.0 G5 running OS 10.5.8
SCSI Adaptec Power Domain 29160N Mac Edition
Driver I got from here -
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/mac/ ... a1_hqx.htm

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:18 am
by jamie8286
lhkmusic wrote:*update

Well I finally have the Mac and EMU talking to each other and I'm able to send samples to and from the EMU...

This is on a dual 2.0 G5 running OS 10.5.8
SCSI Adaptec Power Domain 29160N Mac Edition
Driver I got from here -
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/mac/ ... a1_hqx.htm


Really you got it to work? Any problems at all? Do you have a procedure for this to work?

cheers Jamie

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:37 am
by lhkmusic
Yep, transferring samples between the Mac and Emu using Bias Peak Pro 5.2, no problems as yet...

I just fitted the Adaptec card, installed the driver, rebooted and checked systems profiler and it saw the card and driver installed. Shutdown the Mac then booted the EMU and let it fully boot before booting the Mac.

Peak found the sampler straight away.

Setting on the Samplers SCSI page are -

SCSI ID - 4
Termination - On
Avoid Host on ID - 7 (mac)

oh and the Sampler is connected via Midi both In and Our.

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:45 am
by jamie8286
Cool im sure everyone will be very happy to hear that 8-) (me included) what job is bias peak doing im not familiar with it? If you need it to make the transfers is there any other software that can do it?

cheers Jamie

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:54 pm
by jamie8286
Just got myself the scsi card off ebay. I also download the c6 free software from here http://www.elektron.se/support/ I just managed to transfer via midi and that would have done for me but might as well give the scsi card a try now iv got it.

Does anyone know where i can get a scsi cable for my E4XT from in the UK? Is it a specific cable to EMU or should i just be able to find one? I do have a scsi cable here i think it is for an old printer it doesn't fit though.

cheers Jamie

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:37 pm
by katzinhatz
Hi Guys

Just for everyones benefit so dont loose money. The card mentioned here will not work with later edition G5's only the early edition pci/pcix g5's. So if you have a late edition pcie g5 - As I do- your out of luck :(

Best

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:29 am
by kalide
DO NOT use printer cables. They are not SCSI - and will basicially just ground power lines on a SCSI interface.

Result will be blown drives, Sampler or SCSI interface.

Make sure whatever you do you use a standard SCSI cable. Cheap of e-bay - old ones may have broken wires so if it does not work, try another. SCSI cables are somewhat delicate due to the number of very fine wires in side (25 signals + 25 earths)

M

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:19 pm
by jamie8286
Hi guys yup i got the scsi pci card and it didnt fit my mac pro i thought it was worth a try anyway as it didnt cost much but my friend just bought an s3000xl off ebay with a pc scsi card i swapped it with his so all good. Im just going to hook it up to my Old XP machine. Problem is i carnt find a scsi cable does anyone know where i can find one? there never seems to be any on ebay uk and when they are they are included with a sampler so out of luck :roll: . I was actually going to buy a normal one off ebay thanks for the warning kalide.

I have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI card im not sure of connection types ect so any help would be great.

cheers Jamie

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:24 pm
by kalide
An easier way is to use a removable drive or a SCSI compact Flash card - then just move Wave files from the sampler to the mac for editing as FAT32 drives.

SCSI cables galore on the US ebay site - many will ship to UK - Amazon also (and amazon.co.uk).

Cable info:

http://www.scsiforsamplers.com/



M

Re: E6400 Ultra Firewire>SCSI and IDE drive options, Mac

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:20 pm
by jamie8286
awesome thanks!!! Im going to get a cable anyway wouldnt mind having a mess around with the EOS link and Zeos software. I'll just have to have a good search on the forum so i dont mess anything up with the scsi.

cheers