emusonacid!

!!Originally posted on DOA!!

Today is a bad day for me.
I just finished a good session in the studio, real progress made, when I hit save on my E5000 Ultra (internal scsi HDD). This set off taking a few seconds as the bank is large so I started turning off my other gear and pc........big mistake........
As the pc shutdown the EMU hung saying 78% Saved.. DoH!! Nothing I could do but turn the EMU off after a while and reload. The HDD is now corrupt - I have lost all folders/banks/samples....gutted....

The samples are all on my pc HDD but all tunes and arrangements are lost - learn from my mistake

JD


I've been told I can put the HDD in my pc and run scandisk to fix the disk (appart from the bank I was saving) So I will let you know what happens....

Unfortunately I know what you are talking about. I did that a while back just because I was a bit impatient. Thankfully though I was saving to an external SCSI HD after already making a copy of the bank to the internal IDE drive. My heart almost fell through the floor until I realized I had made a copy of that bank.

Why would shutting down the PC crash the Emu?

thanks jd.

mind mech: the emu sampler seems to be very sensetive to voltage spikes. turning something on and off causes voltage spikes. that is why you hear a pop in your speakers if you turn off your mixer before your amp or monitors are turned off. i could be wrong, but that is how i understand it.
i had something like this happen to me about six months or so ago. i believe i posted about that situation. it happened with my cd rom. i turning it on but forgot to plug it in. when i did plug the cd rom in, my emu lost the ability to access the zip. it couldn't even find it anymore. i had to to actualy, get this, unplug my zip drive from the power supply to get it to recongize. that is the only thing that would work. removing it from the scsi chain didn't work. turn the emu off didn't work. even unplugging the zip from the wall didn't work. but separating the power supply from the zip allowed the emu to recongize.

the emu is very sensitive, i think. that is why it is the last thing i turn on, and the first thing i turn off.

jd:

hope the scan disk fixes it. if it works.. tell us. that would be really useful information.

I don't think it would be voltage spikes.

Its more likely that by shutting down the computer you are causing an interuption in the SCSI chain and data is not relaying correctly.

The thing about EMU samplers is that there is no error handling or timeouts here, so they just freeze.

Have you tried that ZoeOS app from www.zuonics.com? I haven't had to use this yet, but they claim that if you hit 'refresh' in ZoeOS, it will unfreeze the Emu when it crashes like that. They do a fairly functional demo - might be worth keeping on your system, just in case.

!! HELP !!

I cant get the data back from the crash.
I was told that if I stick the drive into my pc, then run scan disk, it will sort the bad sectors for me - however, when I put the drive in, the scsi card picks it up but windows (98) doesnt.

what can I try? is there any software that will pick it up?

Oh Dear.
been on to emu....

looks like they use a special 'emu' format that you cannot correct. They say you must back up regularly to avoid this -

looks like I lost it good !! and all for turning off my pc before the save completed - damn
oh well

WAIT!!!

All is not lost! I think Chicken Systems had a EOS disc recovery utility. if all else fails Garth @ Chicken Systems may be able to assist you in the repair. I'm not 100% on this though as I've never had to go through this.

one of the very 1st lessons of SCSI is to NEVER interupt the chain when the bus is being polled. There should be a huge warning on every HD, but it's elementary. Guess you found out the hard way. hope you get it sorted