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Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:04 am
by Origin
Hey there, all

As a long time EMU user, I have struggled with issues like dying power supplies, archaic hard drives crashing, lack of easy connectivity to computers for storage, manipulation, etc.

So, here's the potentially exciting news.

I get my gear serviced at a very reputable shop here in Los Angeles called Advanced Musical Electronics. http://www.advancedmusical.com/

I purchased a SCSI for Samplers CF card reader a while ago, and it stopped mounting, leaving me with my entire library totally inaccessible.

I went to Advanced musical to have them take a look at my CF card reader, but after talking for a while, they informed me of a new piece of hardware that might allow my emu (and lots of other SCSI devices) to have a USB port put in place of the floppy drive, allowing for pretty much any USB storage device to interface with the sampler. They said, this would include direct connection to a mac or PC.

They haven't been able to do the research into exact config because they haven't had an EMU to work with. So, i gave them my E6400 ultra to expierment on.

I should know more in a week, if this works, we might just solve a lot of EMU problems with one device that should be easy to install.

I'll keep you all updated.

_origin

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:21 am
by E5kUltra
Sounds fantastic!

But I hope it isn't the one that emulates a floppy drive because you can only access the storage medium in 1.44mb blocks.

Here's a floppy emulator that can use SD cards and there's a USB version as well but you can't write to the USB one:
http://www.lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=12

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:52 am
by Origin
Cool, i'll pass this info on to them. =)

_Origin

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:16 am
by Origin
I should also be clear, this is a USB device, not a CF device. It just adds a USB port and the ability to mount devices via it. As you can imagine, if this works, it would be awesome. It is brand new, and not like the device in the link you sent.

_Origin

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:40 am
by russ
very very very interesting altogther :shock:

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:01 am
by E5kUltra
Origin wrote:I should also be clear, this is a USB device, not a CF device. It just adds a USB port and the ability to mount devices via it. As you can imagine, if this works, it would be awesome. It is brand new, and not like the device in the link you sent.

_Origin


Those are brand new - they make them in versions that are USB or SD, internal and external.
They've been used successfully on the old Emulators, Korgs, Rolands etc, you name it, the guy who created the original one can get it work with anything with a floppy drive virtually. There is even a forum just for troubleshooting this thing and helping people to get it working in their set ups.

The only problem for me is the 1.44mb memory addressing, it wouldn't be much use for saving most banks, unless it's smart enough to automatically use lots of slices of 1.44mb one after the other without issues.

This is the guy that originally created these floppy emulators (scroll down for the list of compatible synths to date):
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:51 am
by kalide
Three problems with the floppy interface:

* ultra slow - 10 KB/Sec type interface.
* file system is 1.44MB
* awkward eject requirements, mount, load etc.

Try this instead - it works:

viewtopic-f=1&t=2561.php.html
Permits an IDE drive to directly mount, and a USB connect to the same drive for sample moves.

Similar can be achieved with CF cards over SCSI.

M

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:52 am
by kalide
Note: bewards - some of the linked images to Aroedrinks site are compromised with malware. DONT CLICK ON THEM. Chrome picks that up btw.

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:51 am
by aerodrink
Hi Kalide,

I just saw your message : I didn't manage to see where the malware links are, but if you point me to the right page in the post I can perhaps clean this and update my post to avoid malware ?

Cheers

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:56 pm
by kalide
Try google chrome and set it to warn of compromised sites: it will point to the jpegs which its flagging as malware redirects.

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:17 am
by Origin
Still waiting on them to do the futzing needed to get the USB interface installed in my 6400 Ultra.

They tell me that it will likely be worked on over the (US) holiday.

Will update as soon as I know more.

_Origin

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:45 am
by Ommatidium
Origin, is there a reason why you're eschewing the removable IDE route in favor of this solution?

My worries with this are the same as Kalide's.

Re: Some potentially very exciting news, USB EMU!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:54 am
by Origin
First off, they couldn't do it.

However, though I passed on the information about the floppy option being a issue, they gave me back my emu.

however, if this ide-related information could be useful to them, i'll pass it along.

It may still work yet.

_Origin