emusonacid!

Hi.

I have been using for a few days an emulator e5000 ultra, quipped with a 114giga internal IDE hard disk.
While happily loading a bunch of samples, I got the following error "message": device is full"

But if I ask the OS for "info" on the disk, I get the following answer

format: FAT 32
disk total capacity: 114445mb (ie 114 giga)
capacity used: 10080Mb (ie 10 giga), 8%
folders: 56/1000 5%
banks: 1428/1000000 0%

What limit did I hit then?

Neither the "folder" nor the "bank" number is anywhere near the capacity limit, and there's 100 giga to spare...

Thx in advance

hi ozy
Mine does this too.
When I get this message I find the data saves if I just press save again.
Also I have my emu set to edit undo, and for some reason it will try to back the data onto any connected scsi device (zip) rather than the internal ide drive. This is far slower and will sometimes result in a corrupted zip disk. I avoid this by ejecting the disk before making any edits to the samples, and then the undo data gets stored on a temp file on the internal ide drive.
These are EOS file management quirks that are irritating but I live with them because the sound of the filters is so musical.
I hope you find a simple re-save does the trick because your file total is nowhere near the max size.

If it does not save any data you could try this...

1 Remove the ide drive from the the sampler
2 Connect it to your PC and save all folders to the computer
3 Reformat the drive and place the folders back on the drive.

I recently had a corrupted ide drive and this did the trick.

However I was unsure how long it might be before the drive went down with my precious data lost forever, and so I bought and installed a BRAND NEW one. Maybe a little over cautious, but when I considered how many hundreds of hours I have taken editing samples, mapping and cording banks, £40-£50 for a new unopened drive was a good investment compared to £20-£30 for a second hand one with potentially bad sectors and lost data.
Keep us updated on how it goes

thx

I have one question:

I can backup my whole disk ["backup" as in "EOS Backup", not as in "ghost" or anything, so I'll just backup the files, not any OS or boot sector] on an external hard drive, format and reload.

But:

May I format the internal disk and still reboot? Where does the EMU boot from?

Oh, I see: flash ram. Is that it?

The internal hard disk is just a storage unit for data?

Coolio.

No need to open the EMU and extract the hard disk then, I can manage it by scsi:

I managed to buy cheapo:

1) one scsi external backup hard disk

2) --> check this --> one old computer (2003) running win98, which has

2 internal ide disks
scsi interface
6 usb ports
floppy
dvd writer
cd writer

which means that I can move data from scsi to usb, bakup scsi on DVD, etc etc.

Somebody was just throwing it away!

Yep eos on flash ram
Only sound data on HD
Just make sure you format the external scsi drive in FAT so the PC can read it

I should also add that it might be better to reformat the drive with the second format option (format LL) as this will be a full format, this will have more chance of improving the reliability of the the drive, compared to the first option that will just wipe the file headers.
Full format will take longer though.

the "hit the button twice" gimmick worked (I should have know: I always hit the buttons twice on elevatirs, and it works! I get there faster!).

I won't format after all.

The Roland issue remains:

I couldn't even rename the files in windows (neither using win explorer, nor using a renaming utility).

The only way out seems to individually load the banks in the emu [doezens of them! ], and save them with a correct name.

But I didn't try if this makes the name format correct.

What I discovered for now, is that the "*" sign is not ubiquitous. It is probably just a graphical character.

The ":" sign on the other hand is always there. I am afraid it's there for some reason, and that removing it could affect the files' functionality (reference of samples to patches).

I backed everything up and will try tomorrow.

In the meantime I tried posting the issue on Roland forums and Samplezone,

but Rolandclan is stricly for fanboys, vintage is deserted,

and samplezone semms dead (last post, one year ago)