emusonacid!

hello people

I've tried everything now I need your help. i also searched the whole forum and more. I have an últra5000 with os 4.10a. i have downloaded flashprep and eos 4.70 from the creative homepage (original images). then i bought serveral 1.44mb hd disks and formated with an old laptop with win98 os (in ms dos and explorer mode) and then prepared the formated disk with flashprp eos4.70. everything went fine .. save disk image was succesful for both disk ... but everytime i insert the disk it does not update or recognize the disks. regardless of the disk. if i format it in the emu win98 does not recognize it and cant use flasprp. if i hit enter on the emu it shows me only if i want to load os from midi? hit ok then it searches for midi update..hit cancel it boot normal....i tried every flashprp image with a few different disks. should i try xp? any clou? floppy works 100%.

Your description reminds me to a case where the Floppy Disk Controller (=FDC) was defect and you could not use the disk drive in the EMU.
To check if the disk drive in your E5000 Ultra is really 100% OK, please format a floppy disk with your PC and copy a ".WAV"-file ... a sample ... to this disk.
EOS 4.x can handle MSDOS-formatted floppy disks and can read WAV-files. Start your E5000 Ultra and try to load and play this sample.
If this works, reformat the floppy disk in MSDOS-format and export the sample as WAV-file to this disk and try to load and play with in your PC.

If this fails then your floppy drive in your EMU or the FDC is defect. In this case you can only upgrade to a higher EOS by using another Ultra-sampler and plug the Boot-Flash (it is the one that is
closer installed to the front panel inside the EMU) into that other unit, install the newer EOS on it an put it back into your E5000 Ultra. I have done this successfully in the above mentioned case, after I checked different floppy drives in the EMU Ultra sampler with the defective FDC and none of them was working with this sampler.
By the way: The FDC "Intel 82078" that is used in the EMU samplers is not available any more so that a replacement is hard to find.

Regarding the OS update via MIDI:
I thought that this was only available with later versions of EOS than 4.10a.

..good point..i will try this tomorrow...im also trying to format some new floppy on a friends xp and 98 system and writing the images with his systems...i also thought about the midi upgrade, but also think only available on later os system..thnx for you help..ver nice.. :-)

ok ...i solved my problems..what i did...

1. installed e-loader 1.1 on pc (on win7/as administrator/in win2000 compatibiltiy mode)
wired the midi cables from audio to emu
powered emu on (with pushed enter button)
then hit ok (...loading os)

2. opened e-loader and configured midi in-and outputs
then upgrade function in eloader (loading the emu 4.7 os.dli typed firmware file)
then hit load os button from eloader (in the upgrade menu)
the emu begins now automatically updating (takes 5 min to load the firmware, slow midi connection)
then it says upload complete and the emu restarts with 4.7..
done....have phun

Hi.

First post here.

I have also 4XT Ultra with 4.10a. I cannot get it to updating status while pressing enter. I'm not sure how to do it otherwise.
I would like to have 4.70 in but the problem is I have no (actual) PC here. I have only VMware Fusion virtual XP on my OSX. Everything seems to be ok on that side but the last bit is just to get that 4.70 in to my E-MU via MIDI...

Any last suggestions anyone?

Thanks

What about the update via floppy disk?
You can purchase them on ebay or find someone to create the FlashPrep and EOS 4.70 floppy disks for you.

Yep.
I think the floppy way is the only option. I just wanted to make sure that 4.10a cannot be updated via MIDI. Waldorf2 posted earlier that he had 4.10a on his E-MU...

Thanks

hey mosrob..

the update is 100% working via midi (on emu5000ultra, win7, rme midi, eloader, eos470 file from emusonacid...) did you check the midi connections in/out to the emu (do they work). right firmware? eloader 1.1 (midi settings right)? hit enter before starting the emu? ....

I received flashprep and 4.70 os floppies.
When I insert flashprep disk it asks to update flash from disk. I press enter to proceed. After about 30 seconds the screen goes black and some button lights goes up. I cannot do anything after that. I have to reboot. I've tried to insert the 4.70 system disk in every possible way bbut no luck. I can go back to my original 4.10a via one floppy I made before trying to update. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

..i had no luck with floppy disk too..so i made the update via midi and eloader....maybe the disk is corrupt...the emu floppy controller are a pain...