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Best external sequencer (hard) recommendations pls!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:36 pm
by AX-AT
Hi ive been using nuendo for make midi sequences, since i think emus its very difficult for that (sometimes i do record the midi sequence on the sampler, but not creat them there)

What would be a good choice for a hardware sequencer?
Ive already a midi keyboard with 12 assigable knobs also.

Bonus track question.
latest EOS 4.7 for emu5000 ultra works without RFX? i remember i tryed to update my eos time ago and i receive the msg NO RFX CARD INSTALLED.

thanks again.,im learning a lot here! :thumbs:

AX-going totally extreme to hardware!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:36 am
by spiral''
i use a Yamaha RM1x for sequencing. it works great. for more money, you can get either a RS7000, or a QY700.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:23 am
by om
Man, I absolutely swear by my XL-7 command station.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:36 pm
by spiral''
oh and for your other question........i use EOS 4.7 without a RFX-32. works fine.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:01 pm
by illinformed
I recommend the Rm1x too. I use it for gigging with my emu and all of my best ideas come from fiddling about with it. There's a good review HERE

It's not the greatest sequence for arranging large songs however with a bit of practice you get used to it. It's got a floppy drive too, so sometimes I find myself saving midi data from the rm1x, arranging it in Logic and chucking back into the rm1x. I dont use the onboard sounds.

There's a few knocking about at a decent price at the moment, dload the manual from HERE and see what you think.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:50 am
by MindMech
I have both an XL-7 and an MPC-2000XL. The MPC, IMO, is a much better sequencer than the XL-7. The XL-7 has sounds... But that's what the E4 sampler is for ;)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:46 pm
by elemental
I have an E-mu PX-7 (same sequencer as XL-7) and so far I like it, still getting to know it though.

There's a few limitations I didnt expect - like not being able to mix looping patterns of different lengths and no solo (only mute).
In general it is a very solid sequencer and an excellent interface.

I'd like anyone who has tried both the XX-7 and RM1x to compare them, I was looking at the RM1x but was recommended the Emu ones as having a better OS.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:18 am
by AX-AT
nice, smooth and useful answer all, thanks!

ive a friend who is selling the yamaha rmx, so i will try it first and see how it goes.

about the EOS, not sure, ive read bad stuff on the pdf manual about scsi problems.
its on the topic
viewtopic.php?t=488
and pdf file is here:
http://www.basscadets.co.uk/emu/EOS470/ ... Addend.pdf
im not an english expert but sounds that big problems with my setup.

AX

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:05 am
by ra coon
maybe someone could tell me how to do a SMF Midi Dump, into the XL-7, from a software seq.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:44 pm
by sampleandhold
last night was on doa, and i had read about this sequencer that was called the Notron, or something like that. One dog on there said that squarepusher uses that sequencer, or had. I guess you can get some really strange stuff to happen with it. One dog said it has been discontinued. so an ebay search would be in order. It sounds really good though. it seemed to be more of a sequencer for live applications though. You could tweak your sequence on the fly as it is playing. muting tracks, starting pitch shifts, making it skip steps, making it go forward then backward, i guess you can even make it start at different places in the sequence.

might be worth looking into.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:22 pm
by Casoolt
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:37 pm
by elemental
I've been thinking about trying an RM1x or RS7000, just to see if they suit my style more... I currently have an Emu PX7. Its nice to use, its got wicked drum sounds, but there's just a few features I wish it had, like being able to have tracks of different lengths and different time signatures, being able to move tracks forward or back, or move loop points/change patterns on individual tracks in realtime.

My style is breaks / dubstep / drum'n'bass, I'd really like to be able to switch up bass and beat patterns quickly, there's just no way on the Emu sequencers (that I can find) other than using two different tracks, which wastes tracks!

Anyone have experience with one or both of these??

Cheers

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:27 pm
by duncan
I have a notron mk1, since 1997. it's served us pretty well for monophonic lines & sending patch change commands. it lets you edit lines on the fly, change line-lengths, track-slip & so on.
I haven't had much cause to use it for triggering sampled loops/riffs, but it has this beat-syncing thing whereby changing the tempo will automatically apply the right amount of pitchbend to y'r sample so it carries on fitting the tempo.
but really it's a great way to create basslines & melodies/counterpoints for the sort of analogue trancey stuff we do. like the doepfer maq/schaltwerk, only better. if you see one, grab it. they are now the stuff of legend amongst h/ware sequencer users, & I have been through quite a few h/ware sequencers in me time! :slayer:
duncan/r.m.i.

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 12:50 am
by spiral''
elemental wrote:I've been thinking about trying an RM1x or RS7000, just to see if they suit my style more... I currently have an Emu PX7. Its nice to use, its got wicked drum sounds, but there's just a few features I wish it had, like being able to have tracks of different lengths and different time signatures, being able to move tracks forward or back, or move loop points/change patterns on individual tracks in realtime.

My style is breaks / dubstep / drum'n'bass, I'd really like to be able to switch up bass and beat patterns quickly, there's just no way on the Emu sequencers (that I can find) other than using two different tracks, which wastes tracks!

Anyone have experience with one or both of these??

Cheers


yea i use the RM1x, and my friend has a RS7000. they use "sections", which are variations you can switch between. you can make it switch on the bar or on 16th note resolutions. very cool way to lay in drum fills + bass variations etc.

Re: Best external sequencer (hard) recommendations pls!

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:47 pm
by info
AX-AT wrote:Hi ive been using nuendo for make midi sequences, since i think emus its very difficult for that (sometimes i do record the midi sequence on the sampler, but not creat them there)

What would be a good choice for a hardware sequencer?
Ive already a midi keyboard with 12 assigable knobs also.

Bonus track question.
latest EOS 4.7 for emu5000 ultra works without RFX? i remember i tryed to update my eos time ago and i receive the msg NO RFX CARD INSTALLED.

thanks again.,im learning a lot here! :thumbs:

AX-going totally extreme to hardware!


The ultimate hardware sequencer is the Yamaha QY700 - rock solid timing, large clear display ( like in a soft sequencer). I just got one on EBay for 500 euro, but one was sold on EBay a few days later for a measily 410 euro -doh!

It will be the perfect complement for both my E4s

Have a look here:

http://www.sonicstate.com/synth_reviews ... _qy700.cfm