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PC to Mac switch...need some advise on my E-mu.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:18 pm
by rezone
Just some question for you Mac users.....

I'm making the big switch from PC to a sexy Mac G5. Problem is, I have all these great programs on PC like Sound Forge & Wavelab that enable me to do SCSI transfers. Will Peak do this for me??

If anyone can give me some pros & cons that would be appreciated. thanks in advance....

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:11 pm
by ezman
Heh - greetings as I go the other way!!! From Mac to PC :shock:

Peak 4.1 will let you do it as long as you find a scsi card compatible with Panther - Drayon might be able to help you out...

http://www.bias-inc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=799

I'd have loved one of those G5's but had to go for the cheaper option. Maybe another day - I want Mac and PC :mrgreen:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:41 am
by rezone
Cheers for the info!

Funny you say both Mac & PC, I was thinking about keeping a PC around just for the E-MU. I heard Recycle's hardware support was dropped in OSX?? If that is true then I'm going to have to build a shuttlebus pc.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:36 pm
by madmax
Got some of the same questions ... finally considering upgrading my beige G3 (can't even remeber the specs ... lets just say that it has trouble with more than 3 tracks of audio) to a G5 or possibly a G4. Are there problems with OSX and SCSI? Is OS9 something that is worth having available for teh EMU?

Take it from me.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:37 am
by recone
Being a Mac and PC user (G4 titanium, G4 Quicksilver / Various Dell XP workstations) I would suggest keeping a PC around for communication with the EMU. Forgetting for a minute the hardware limitations of the G5, nothing compares with Sound Forge on the sample editing front. If you use your PC for nothing else but Recycle and Sound Forge it would be worth keeping. I started stereo editing on a Mac way back with peak 2 but once I got my hands on Sound Forge (ver. 4 at the time) I never looked back. You might think that Peak is the same thing - will do all that Sound Forge does and with the same ease, but it doesn't. Also, if you are like me, having a copy of ACID in the studio to mock up a quick idea can be a real time saver.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:14 pm
by Klaseed
I agree, keep the PC around for Soundforge. There's nothing like it on the mac, and I've tried all the editors out there... Also for the Emu X, of course 8-)

Recycle for OSX came out in January.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:37 am
by rezone
Thanks for the advice... yes I've decided to keep a pc around just for sound design & SCSI transfers. The Recycle & E-mu combo are essential tools that I can't do away with. Not to mention Sound Forge & Wavelab are wicked program that are hard to give up.
Apple disregarded SCSI hardware support for obvious reasons (**cough**Logic** ESX**) and in all seriousness the small fraction of us that use hardware samplers (e-mu & akai mpc users) would benefit from having a pc as an extension of their workhouse.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:33 pm
by drayon
rezone wrote:Thanks for the advice... yes I've decided to keep a pc around just for sound design & SCSI transfers. The Recycle & E-mu combo are essential tools that I can't do away with. Not to mention Sound Forge & Wavelab are wicked program that are hard to give up.
Apple disregarded SCSI hardware support for obvious reasons (**cough**Logic** ESX**) and in all seriousness the small fraction of us that use hardware samplers (e-mu & akai mpc users) would benefit from having a pc as an extension of their workhouse.


Well to be honest Recycle OS X, i don't really care that much now, I just wont use it anyway for sample transfers. As it turns out, every break i slice in Recycle seriously needs alot of pre production work done on each slice. Im finding i use Recycle to slice the loop, save the slices using "Export' to the hard disk then open the slices up in Pro Tools for sample editing. BTW you guys using anything else are doing it the hard way trus me, PT is the easiest an most flexible sample editing app around without question.... u really do need multi tracks to edit samples properly not only that the plugs are by far the best on any platform.

Anyways, after ive processed the files in PT i bounce then, launch Peak an batch send the samples (something none of the PC apps can do btw) .

Im looking enviously at ZeOS for Mac OS X to handle ALL my SCSI sample transfers..... The dilemma here is that the developer won't do an OS X version until they get 100 per orders, else they are taking too much of a financial risk. Im fully in support an will pre order as soon as i can. Im practically desperate to get this ZeOS thing running on my Mac's.

Hope others here support the cause. This thing will indispensable for me, since it will enable me to sample a sound in the EMU set up a preset, then save it in the Mac as a package then email it to my mates using the EMU, they can load the same preset into their EMU an we can work on tunes together at different times while sharing our idea's.

Mad keen on this !!

Laiterz

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:15 pm
by rezone
drayon wrote:
rezone wrote:Thanks for the advice... yes I've decided to keep a pc around just for sound design & SCSI transfers. The Recycle & E-mu combo are essential tools that I can't do away with. Not to mention Sound Forge & Wavelab are wicked program that are hard to give up.
Apple disregarded SCSI hardware support for obvious reasons (**cough**Logic** ESX**) and in all seriousness the small fraction of us that use hardware samplers (e-mu & akai mpc users) would benefit from having a pc as an extension of their workhouse.


PT is the easiest an most flexible sample editing app around without question.... u really do need multi tracks to edit samples properly not only that the plugs are by far the best on any platform.


and thus, my reason for going Mac. I learned Pro Tools on a Mac & the PC version doesn't do it for me. Its so intuitive with OS X!
Maybe you just gave me the bit of advice that would make my setup much easier. But I've found Recycle works painlessly for me. I can just pitch up a loop, chop it , send to sampler, import midi file into sequencer , & i have a functional loop playing. Of course I do my own edits , but it gives me a starting point to work with. As I move on of course some slices may not have the attack it needs, so I'll just import, say, sample 14 into Sound Forge, edit it & send it right back to 14. Its a very simple system and easy to keep everything organized. Perhaps if Pro Tools allowed transfers, it would be an all in 1 solution with Beat Detective and all. Thanks, i'll have to give it a thought.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:08 am
by drayon
Man, ive been begging Digi for years to implement SCSI transfers directly in PT with the complimentary Beat Detective/Recycle type functionality.

Oh id be sooooooooo feckin happy if that ever eventuated. bye bye to all the crappy good for only 1 function software i have.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:21 am
by aeser
peak is the shit!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:53 am
by rezone
drayon wrote:Man, ive been begging Digi for years to implement SCSI transfers directly in PT with the complimentary Beat Detective/Recycle type functionality.

Oh id be sooooooooo feckin happy if that ever eventuated. bye bye to all the crappy good for only 1 function software i have.

unfortunatly nothing is complimentary with Digi. If the option was there, you'd probably have to purchase it seperatly :D

But I will hound Digi myself and see if the thought has even crossed their minds. To be able to do everything in one program would be a dream.

Zeos, OS X... I would def purchase this , if , and when it comes out.