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Behringer BCR2000 - midi control mapping to E4K or EIV

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:16 am
by groovebox
Hi again,

Not sure where to post this!

Basically I have just brought a Behringer BCR2000 and I was kinda wondering whether it could be used to map to the controls of my EIV.

Obviously I will need to hook it to MIDI in/out - and I will have to assign some of the EMU CC's to the various controllers on the BCR2000.

Have had a look through the EMU manual and the Behringer manual and had a scan through these forums but nothing jumped out at me...

Am guessing it is something pretty simple...

Any comments or links to pages in the manual appreciated!

:)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:28 am
by sixtysixnorth
Essentially you would assign MIDI controllers in the cords section of each preset, then assign controls on the Behringer to the MIDI controllers on the EMU. If, say, MIDI controller A on the EMU responds to MIDI Continuous Controller 20, you would make a control on the Behringer send MIDI CC 20 to control that parameter.

Any deeper control of the EMU means getting into sysex, and because the sysex spec is so badly written that can get very confusing very quickly. Sysex control does let you directly control preset parameters though you have to specify which preset and voice you want to control, which is where it starts to fall down in terms of simplicity.

Hope that helps

Mark

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:12 am
by groovebox
Thanks for that info Mark - yes - SysEx is old and ugly - I'll try the CC-approach and let you all know how I get on with that.

:)

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:39 am
by ehasting
I have mapped up my MidiA-MidiJ controll to my radium49 and it works great.

and i try to always use the same Midi controller for certain standard opreation. like filter, reso, etc.

then the rest stay more exotic.. if i need them :)

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:59 am
by vermis_rex
I'm using an E-mu PX-7... the first 12 knobs (of 16) mapped to the e6400 A-L, the last four mapped to the A-D on the Morpheus. Then I just set up the patch cords in the sampler presets to the same general functions as labeled on the PX-7 (filter cutoff, filter Q, filter attack...etc), and I can know at a glance what I'm adjusting.

The hard part was hunting through the PX-7 MIDI controller chart to find CCs that E-mu hadn't already allocated to stuff inside the PX-7 (or allocated to other named control functions).

SysEx might be "old and ulgy", but it's a lot more powerful than just using CCs. You can slap whole macros together with SysEx for much more complex functions than CCs can give you, and access features that can't be mapped to CCs. CCs = simple to get your head around, SysEx = powerful but needs a programmer's brain.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:13 pm
by sixtysixnorth
vermis_rex wrote:SysEx = powerful but needs a programmer's brain.


Some decent documentation wouldn't go amiss in Emu's case either!

In the end I turned to Zoeos to address this, which has the added benefit of making it easy to drag and drop cord assignments as well. Particularly useful when using sample cd patches that don't fit the template I have created for my studio.

Cheers

Mark