emusonacid!

Damn you, E-MU, for not fixing this!

ehasting wrote:... before they die out!!

hehe

I came across this ... http://www.linkedin.com/in/chansensturm

Looks like this guy worked with EMU from May 2000 - May 2001, so may be able to offer advice on how EOS is structured etc...

... he might even have some cheeky sources.

"The EOS software provides significant new features and added power to Emulator technology. It makes investing in E-mu sampling/synthesizers a wise choice," states Bryan Lanser, Product Planning Manager at E-mu. "Whereas other companies tend to obsolete products after a very short time, E-mu feels strongly that the right way to treat customers is to provide value long after the initial purchase is made. One way to do this is to regularly update the EOS software," Lanser explains.

Hehe

nice.. i think i will go out and buy even more emu.. with that statement from an emu employee i feel confident that emu is the right way to go.

WhiteSea wrote:"The EOS software provides significant new features and added power to Emulator technology. It makes investing in E-mu sampling/synthesizers a wise choice," states Bryan Lanser, Product Planning Manager at E-mu. "Whereas other companies tend to obsolete products after a very short time, E-mu feels strongly that the right way to treat customers is to provide value long after the initial purchase is made. One way to do this is to regularly update the EOS software," Lanser explains.

Comedy gold!

I know its unlikely but you never know they might agree, but what about asking them to open source the code? The anyone could have a go at fixing it.

soulboy wrote:I know its unlikely but you never know they might agree, but what about asking them to open source the code? The anyone could have a go at fixing it.

Hi, i'm new to the forum and have only started using emu harware in the last year or so, and am only now in the process of buying an rfx card. I have read this entire thread and am frustrated that I am going to be experiencing these bugs!

From what I can see, the only realistic options for fixing these problems are:

1. Creative/E-mu release eos source code and someone fixes the bugs (unlikely)

2. Someone finds a way to gain access to the source code and someone fixes the bugs (still pretty unlikely)

2. Somebody writes their own version of EOS. This may sound far fetched... but just look at what has happened for the MPC community with the JJ os releases. Since Numark took over Akai the newer MPCs that have been released have been substandard, and a group called JJ have written a number of OS for them that are FAR superior to the originals. If as a group we put the time and effort into researching this idea, we may be able to find a solution. If we find out what needs to be done, who is capable of doing it and then offer them enough $$$ (i would be willing to donate and i am sure that so would many others) then maybe we can get a whole new unofficial eos with no bugs and maybe even some cool new features. This IS possible if somebody with the time and knowledge is willing to apply themselves so let's not give up!!!!

Let's start by everyone posting anything they KNOW about designing OSs like this... e.g. Is it possible to somehow extract code from EOS 4.7 and then just fix the bugs or does the whole thing have to be made from scratch? Is anyone on here involved in programming? etc etc

You guys have been fighting for 3 years so i can understand that you are all tired but i am fresh to this so have at least 3 years in me... let's take this into our own hands!

Wil Blaze wrote:
2. Somebody writes their own version of EOS. This may sound far fetched... but just look at what has happened for the MPC community with the JJ os releases. Since Numark took over Akai the newer MPCs that have been released have been substandard, and a group called JJ have written a number of OS for them that are FAR superior to the originals. If as a group we put the time and effort into researching this idea, we may be able to find a solution. If we find out what needs to be done, who is capable of doing it and then offer them enough $$$ (i would be willing to donate and i am sure that so would many others) then maybe we can get a whole new unofficial eos with no bugs and maybe even some cool new features. This IS possible if somebody with the time and knowledge is willing to apply themselves so let's not give up!!!!

Let's start by everyone posting anything they KNOW about designing OSs like this... e.g. Is it possible to somehow extract code from EOS 4.7 and then just fix the bugs or does the whole thing have to be made from scratch? Is anyone on here involved in programming? etc etc

You guys have been fighting for 3 years so i can understand that you are all tired but i am fresh to this so have at least 3 years in me... let's take this into our own hands!

A new OS from the ground up? Fuck that. Good luck reinventing E-MU's Z-Plane Filters and Patch cord routing, and on and on...

JJ was able to write an OS for the MPC cus it's a dead simple utilitarian sampler/sequencer.

I'm afraid the source code is a must if one were to fix this without E-MU.

I see...

Never thought of it like that. That's why I was asking if source code would be needed.

Right then... is it possible to somehow rip the source code from the OS files themselves? Or to hack it in some other way?

I'm no expert in the area... spose everybody's probably thought of this already.

hmmmm :(

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure Akai gave JJ the source code for the MPC, and encouraged him/them to do what he/they did.

...Wouldn't it be great if E-MU/Creative, in an act of good will, stepped up and sorted the Ultra's OS?...One can dream.

So sad that such an amazing, almost perfect sampler/synth was just an update away from perfection before Creative stepped in and scrapped it. What a fucking tragedy

So sad that such an amazing, almost perfect sampler/synth was just an update away from perfection before Creative stepped in and scrapped it. What a fucking tragedy

The Japanese have a word (I think its Wah Li? or something like that) which effectively means perfection with a flaw. I've always been amazed at this word, because in their eyes the perfection with a flaw is better than pure perfection. Like Cindy Crawford's mole.

I understand everyone's frustration here but hey, I have 3 RFX32's and quite frankly, I'm choosing to see this situation as Wah Li. I tried Emulator X and I went back to the Ultras.

Happy Christmas

i am using my rfx without any outburst problem. as long as i am staying in mixer mode. And i must say i am rather pleased. With the 4.7-beta you can also animate the filter reso. The setup is working very good for me.. what could have been cool with further updates.. is the fact that new filters and functions could have been implemented. But whats there today is just amazing.. so why complain. i have moved away from softwaresamplers.

Om, I can't see how this "Wah Li" shit(sounds Chinese to me, BTW)applies to your RFX if it's working perfectly. My RFX and I are up to our elbows in "Wah Li", and quite frankly, it sucks balls.

Why complain? Um, cuz I shelled out a mint for the RFX and it doesn't work as advertized?

E-MU advertized the RFX as a mixer, yet many of us can't mix mono and stereo signals without the panning bug. Fuck this fanboy bullshit, I want what I paid for.