problems with zip drive and double triggering

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problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Memorex Meridian » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:29 pm

Hi all,

I'm currently using a dell pc, with an Adaptec aic-7850 card going going into an Iomega 100MB zip drive (the blue one.) and then into a e6400 ultra running OS 4.10a.I used a gender changer on the end of the SCSI cable going from the pc to the zip drive. I'm not sure is you have to use a specific SCSI cable make or not with my zip..?

Having 2 main problems that maybe you can help with.

1. The Sampler recognises the zip drive when I press "disk browse", but when I go to save a preset to the zip, it only gives me the option to save to the floppy drive.. which I then try anyway and it says "folder does not exist!" (for the floppy). Obviously I need to save to

for the zip, termination is set to "off", SCSI id is 5

with the sampler, termination is set to"on", SCSI id is "6"... avoid host is "off"

I have both the floppy drive and zip drive set to "unlock" on the disk browse screen.

The zip drive is recognised by the pc, and accessible, and I have no problems shifting files from Soundforge to the sampler. But I can't save presets to an external zip drive.

2.
Having trouble with double triggering buttons.. will upgrading to 4.7beta help this at all? Took my sampler to a decent local electronics shop and they said it was a software issue... Tried re-installing my current OS 4.10a but the sampler ignored the disk when I turned it on... Is ZoeOs worth getting to get round this problem?

Hope someone can help me, it's crippling me really.... I tried to give as much info as poss that I thought could be relevant, sorry if my knowledge is sketchy...

J
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Memorex Meridian » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:50 am

no-one? *sobs
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby stu » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:54 am

If I remember correctly "ignore host" needs to be to the scsi id of your PC. However I'm not sure that's the cause of your problem. When you go to the zip drive in the browse screen and click info, what does it say?
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Memorex Meridian » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:23 pm

It says:

D5 Iomega ZIP 100
Revision: k.O5
Type: Hard Disk Fs:???
Capacity: 0.0Mb
Used: O.Omb O%
Folder: 0/0%
Band: 0/0 0%

It's unlocked... left termination off on the zip too...
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Rascal Revenge » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:26 pm

You need to format the Zip-disk with the E-mu from the disk menu, but then I would no more put the zip in a chain with a PC (disk would be for the E-mu only then), dump samples like you say it's working, then save to zip. With EOS 4.7 you can FAT-format zips, i.e. save wav-files direct with the PC to Zip, but E-mu strictly adviced to have two zip-drives, just put the zip-disk into the second zip connected to E-mu, regarding that see section in the 4.7 manual-addendum PDF (available on E-mu site).

The double-triggering is a common problem, not on my Ultras but I have it on my E4k here and there-really have to push hard to make things happen, it gets better after some use, even better if you push related button(s) beyond regular usuage/ LOT of times, so like when you're bored, treat the buttons, it might go away.
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Memorex Meridian » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:59 pm

Just formatted the zip disk like you said and it's solved the problem it seemed.... fuck that's great, thank you so much!!
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Memorex Meridian » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:04 am

I didn't understand the part about not having it connected to the pc however... my set up is PC to Zip to Sampler... My pc is one scsi port only, same with sampler, and two for my zip drive which connects the two (sorry if I'm being blindly obvious). Isn't scsi designed to form a chain like this? Note. When I try to access my zip drive from windows xp now, it says the zip disk isn't formatted it, so I can't access it.. is this part of what you're talking about rob?

Totally grateful for the replies anyhow.
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Re: problems with zip drive and double triggering

Postby Rascal Revenge » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:04 am

Yeah, because you formatted zip-disk with the E-mu file system it is never more write-/readable from the PC. I would not have a PC having access to an E-mu formatted HD/zip whatever, not without having a backup of sample-data if it means something to you ;) , it (PC) CAN destroy your data. I don't know if your try with accessing that now E-mu-zip from the PC did something to the zip-disk now already, is it still accessible from the Ultra now, showing relavant data under DISK > INFO, i.e. Fs: E-Mu I, showing Capacity etc. bla, good if so.
Like stu wrote you need to set Avoid Host on to the SCSI-number of your PC SCSI-card.

Avoid Host on ID

SCSI was originally designed to have only one Master on the bus. EOS
contains special software which lets multiple “Master” devices coexist
peacefully on the SCSI bus. If you have a computer connected to the SCSI
bus set this ID number, all Macs use ID 7, if you're a PC user, make sure
this number matches your computer’s SCSI card.
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