emusonacid! legacy

whatever....

does anyone have any good advice in getting laser sounding kind of stuff. what i am kind of looking for is the laser sounds they use to use on old dubplate style shit, like simple tings by shy fx.

i am of course using test tones to make everything. so types using just those would most welcome. i have come to some conclusions, that alot of the sound is created from a filter envelope possibly. but then i really haven't had much success doing that. maybe i am not quite there, yet.

well any help would be good. or a least some ideas on what to try...

cheers

hi,
not to be ignorant but why don't you just sample those sounds as you know where they already come from? It is really cool that you want to make everything from scratch don't get me wrong but if you know where an original source is just sample that and maybe fool around with it more via envelopes, filters etc.

Again I'm not to be taked as rude I hope. I was just curious

=)

well, yeah of course i could just sample that. but where is the fun in that...

and no, i didn't take it as rude.

there just seems to be something that feels better when i make all my own sounds and such. i feel that i have more freedom. that is why i held off on getting a synth. i don't want to be stuck having to tweak presets, and by tweaking i mean mess with a filter or adsr. but in the end it is still the same sound.

it feels really good when you can take a basic wave, like a triange, square, or whatever and creat something that sounds like a bass guitar or an actual old school rave synth. and even if it sounds like something like that, it is still different and your own.

even in my beats, i take breaks, and sample them of course, but what i end up with is something completelydifferent from the original. perhaps almost unreconizeable from the original. that is what i am interested in.

and i feel, (and maybe this is just a hang up, and perhaps not even really a good hang up) cheap, i guess, if i use a preset or a break in it's original form. i don't know...

i figure that if i can make those sounds from scratch, they will lend me even more ideas for other sound creations. that is all.

yea i hear ya. I fully understand where you are coming from. Again I dunno what came into me the other day to respond the way I did.

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Laser and "bubble" sounds can be pretty easily created by using an envelope to create a filter sweep. You can adjust the ramp to taste.. Slower will create a "bubble", faster will create a laser sound.

thanks guys. i will give that ago.

hey mech could you explain more how to tweak the filter enveloppe on the emu to achieve that lazer gun sound?

how do you create a filter sweep using the enveloppe?

First of all, what are you using to modify your presets in your sampler? I don't use the sampler's front screen very often; I use Sound Diver to control it... Supposedly there's an EOS-only version of Sound Diver, but I don't have it. Anyone want to post it? Shouldn't be a piracy issue or anything as it's only for users of EOS... I can't explain how to tweak the envelopes from the front panel so the following assumes Sound Diver:

What you want to do is go into the cords section for your voice and assign filter envelope +/- to control filter frequency. You'll want to give it around 75% control (you might want to leave some room for key tracking, etc). Then modify your filter envelope, giving attack a nice slope. When you pay a key, you'll hear the filter moving up, depending on the slope you made. You can create a two-stage envelope for even more interesting results (as there are two "attack" settings). You can also accomplish the same thing with a saw LFO; however, that will repeat when you hold a note, and IMO a laser sound should only happen once per note press

Also, the sound you use of course will matter in the final result. You might want to start with something simple like a square wave... but putting something like a vocal sample through the same envelope settings can get very interesting.

SnH, all those old video game sounds are done with modulating the pitch. I can't give you exact settings but play with em and you should have some similar sounding bits before long. Lay on some delay and bob's your uncle. BTW - shy FX himself I'm sure sampled the sounds from an Atari game.

came across this VST plugin which is modeled after some ORIJINAL DUB BIZNIZZ.

http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/discu ... 1/562.html

this would be worth recreating via cords i thought for anyone interested in making their own ghetto sirens.

through some delay on it and BAMN you'll have some potentially hot siren noises.