Envelopes NOT doing what I expect.. am I crazy?

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Envelopes NOT doing what I expect.. am I crazy?

Postby rcl » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:51 pm

Ok so I have spent a few years with my trusty e6400 and know many of his quirks and tricks. MOST of what I've done is straight up sampling, although I have done a fair amount of synth work on it as well.

Up until now most of my synth work has been somewhat basic, but I have noticed minor irritating with the envelopes - Amp env and Filter (never used Aux but I am sure it is identical)

It's a 6 point ADR. The two points for A, D, R are to give you more flexibility so you can approximate different curves or do more complicated slopes/dramatic effects. Ok.

But when I lay out something like [working from memory, assume amp envelope]:

ATK1 70 rate 0% ATK2 10 rate 100%


I expect to hit a key, hear NOTHING for a few seconds, and then it spikes to full volume in a very short period of time. Instead, I hear full volume after a very short period of time.

IF I CHANGE TO:

ATK1 70 rate 1% ATK2 10 rate 100%


I get the long "silence" i expected to hear, except it isn't exactly silent because my envelope is going up to 1%..


I notice the exact same thing on D, it's like if there is no "change" in envelope level, then the emu just totally skips that part of the envelope and moves onward. So like

DEC1 100 rate 100% DEC2 30 rate 0%

Just does the 30 'long' decay down to 0%. That sucks..



This is absolutely not what I would expect. I am NOT familiar with 6 point ADR envelopes, but I am very comfortable with analog ADSR and expecting something similar here...


Anyone else?


p.s. this moved from irritating to absolutely horrible a few days ago, when I started trying to do a lot of complicated gating on bass patches...
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Postby MFPhouse » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:48 am

yes , its something special the Emu Env., and quite different than others , specially if you came from Analog ADSR Equipment.

Just read the manual again....and you get it.

I think like an 3 Step Envelope. with additional Break-Points.
A D R - the Second D is the Sustain.
The Break-Points ( the sec. A D R )can use as additional Steps or / and fine Adjustable of the Regulary meaning of the Basic Steps.
So, 3 Fat or 6 Bat ;-).
Maybe that can Help you.
But don`t forget! You can Modulate all Steps in the Chord Modulation !!!

I think the Problem is the visual order in the little Display.
Because THE real envelope Steps are hidden in the Order.( Big Letters if you think in 3 Step)
A a
d D
R r

But it?s realy flexibility ;-)
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