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Another how do they .....

Postby darlomrh » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:47 am

Hi,

I know another one of these type of questions :roll:

Take a listen to this http://download.breakbeat.co.uk/Shared/Music/Fracture%20&%20Neptune/Too%20Doggone%20Funky/Worm%20Science_Fracture%20&%20Neptune_96.mp3

I know Fracture and Neptune use the emu a lot in their productions and there are some lovely time stretch techniques in this track.

The question is I know we can time stretch and so on but can the emu time stretch on the fly. Do you time stretch your sample and a lay out different versions across the octaves?

Do you get the metallic time stretch effect by changing the host project tempo really quickly to create the stretch?

Any ideas would be gratefully received.

Cheers.


PS I'm not using a proper emu (I have X3 softsampler) ;)
Emulator X3 n00b
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Re: Another how do they .....

Postby sebguy » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:02 pm

i was wondering about this the other day.. there doesn't seem to be any cords that correspond to timestretch on my 6400. i guess it's a case of doing a load of edits manually 8-)
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Re: Another how do they .....

Postby JAHFUNK » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:08 pm

Hi
Too get a really controlable breakbeat
1 Cut up your break into every single hit
2 map the hits to individual keys
3 Re-sequence the beat
4 Assign cont-controllers to - filter cutoff (try highpass as well as lowpass, the phase and flange filters work great to) - rez - pitch - fx sends (flange is good as are really short delays with a long release)
5 mess with the c-controllers in your sequencer
6 Resample the results
7 Map the new beats to keys
8 back to 3

To obtain the metalic stretch - time strech at 100% (ie turn a 160bpm beat into a 80bpm beat) this beat with work within the track as the timing fits the tune
You can destroy the audio further by repeating the 100% stretch (then add flange)
If you want to resequence the resulting metalic tones you can go back to step 1 ect

Here is another trick to try
Map the same break twice to the same key, pan them hard left and hard right and then offset the sample start of one sample to get a nice stereo phase(if you detune one side by a fine amount the phasing shifts in a interesting way, or you could even assign a lfo to fine pitch of one side of the pair for a modulating phase)

All the slicing and dicing maping and resequencing takes time but with a little patience you will start to get a very organic evolving sound from your 1 or 2 bar break

Remember to save your maps and banks because you can use them over again by resequencing and combining them in new ways with other banks you will create

Q how many ways is it possible to rework the Amen break


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this is my fav break

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Re: Another how do they .....

Postby JAHFUNK » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:41 am

This might have be talked about befor on this forum, But if you havent watched it yet it is very informative

Video explains the world's most important 6-sec drum loop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
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