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Beat Munger

Postby Zenkodo » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:29 pm

Is it possible to use the 'beat munger' for chopping beats? Im going to have a closer look at it but let me see if I've got this right. I make copies of the sampled beat - then in each copy, mute all but one sixteenth (say) - then map them to the keyboard. Is there a way I can truncate those copies to get the sample memory back?

I'd be dreadful for any tips on this.
Thanks
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby Zenkodo » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:32 pm

Er, yeah, typo - I mean I'd be 'grateful' for any tips! Flipping autocorrect :-/
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby tpotcardiff » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:10 am

yeh - I originally thought this was what the beat munger what automatically do :cry:

any advice really appreciated.

cheers.
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby JAHFUNK » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:32 am

Beat munger is a destructive tool, every time you "munge" a beat down to 1 hit you are left with a sample of this length, so you will need to have first made a copy of the original beat for every hit. You could manually work through the beat using munge and extract every hit this way, but you really need a faster workflow than this (you might also notice some artifacts from munging... timing errors and blurr added to sound).
I would recommend 2 alternative approaches to cutting beats.

Method 1
propellerhead Recycle
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It will chop the beat into hits with a more sensitive and refined algorithm that keeps the groove and timing of the hits tight, it also allows you to alter the tempo and pitch independently then saves the hits along with a midi file of the groove, you just save the folder to zip or use smidi to transfer.
For a cheap way into recycle just Google "propellerhead recycle file"

Method 2
Cord
There is a quick and easy cord on this forum that I found some time ago, that uses the sample start and X4 chords to map a 1 bar beat across the keyboard automatically, non destructive (clever), this cord would be a faster approach.
I've hunted for this thread, but do you think I can find it?

Anyone able to help out with a link?
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby tpotcardiff » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:54 am

RE: Method 2 - its alot simpler than all the 4xgain stuff.

I did a vid for it here - but its not the perfect solution. works best with nicely processed 1 bar breaks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwLERHQqRyE
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby Zenkodo » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:42 pm

Thanks for the replys. Recycle sounds good but I'm keen to look at ways if doing it within the Emu for now. Am awaiting the arrival of a USB floppy drive which will make file transfer possible. (at the moment I'm using a qy700 for sequencing with no PC actually in the studio - this may have to change!)

The cord solution sounds pretty amazing. Would like to know more about that if anyone can help.

Does beat munger actually have any features that people use? Or is it basically a crude forerunner of stuff like recycle?
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby Zenkodo » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:52 pm

@tpotcardiff
I like your vids, thanks - they've been very helpful - but didn't you say you chopped the beat in Soundforge? How would you approach chopping it in the Emu? Like I've said. I'm on a bit of a mission to use the PC as little as possible for music. This may sound perverse in the current climate but hey..
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby tpotcardiff » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:38 pm

cheers.

I did chop a beat in soundforge in the other vid, not in the cords vid...check the link above.

give it a go - try it with a beat at or near project tempo at first if you don't want to spend too much time coarse tuning the beat....
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Re: Beat Munger

Postby Zenkodo » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:28 am

@tpotcardiff

Wow, I've checked that vid. Quite amazing mate. Will try it later.
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