Patch creation using NNXT and pitch detection

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Patch creation using NNXT and pitch detection

Postby atomicmidi » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:54 pm

Patch creation using NNXT and pitch detection

I discovered a method to create patches for EMU using Reason's NNXT and it's superb pitch detection feature.

1. Open Reason's NNXT sampler

2. Choose files to load (can be wavs or other format, 24bit or 16 bit - we will deal with this later), load these samples/sample

3. Right click on sample/samples, choose "Set root notes from pitch detection" or you can click "automap zones chromatically" for a drumset type of patch.
Finalise zones etc manually if neccessary, once happy proceed to save the patch as NNXT sampler patch.

4. Open this patch with Chicken systems translator and translate it into EMU eos bank. It seems that this process also converts 24bit files to EMU 16bit files, as well as dealing with AIFF conversion (pretty sure but not 100% sure, even if it doesn't, my EMU reads AIFF with no problems and so should yours)

5. Load patch into EMU and Enjoy! :D another great feature of NNXT is of course sampling and auto pitch detection/ zone creation - great timesaver when you want to sample say, a complex kontakt patch.

If anyone knows a better method (perhaps chicken systems constructor would be even easier), please let me know! Took me a while to get here and now I am quite happy. In addition the NNXT user interface is a breeze - very easy to use, no learning curve needed..
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Re: Patch creation using NNXT and pitch detection

Postby JAHFUNK » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:31 pm

I like it!

Logical, simple workflow, and of coarse you can just use any existing Reason sample patches you may already have.

Could you also use chicken system translator in someway to export breakbeat slices from Rex files straight into key mapped emu banks ?

It would be good to do this without using recycle to slice and save as wavs, and then importing wav files one by one into the emu and then key mapping them to create a break.

Now, we're do I find chicken system software for a reasonable price?
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Re: Patch creation using NNXT and pitch detection

Postby JAHFUNK » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:38 am

I have been reading a list of the formats that translator can convert from, and it looks like Recycle Rex files will convert into EOS , key mapped and ready to play using the midi file that recycle Generates from the timing of the original break.

What's also interesting is that it will convert any Battery kit into a key mapped EOS kit.
Using the Battery interface would be an easy way to build drum kits for the E-mu ultra, plus there are tons Battery kits about, if you know where to look.

It appears translator is a very handy tool, taking much of the tedium out of drum bank/breakbeat construction whilst also being useful for conventional keys, synth, samples etc

This is great news for anyone wanting a library that's bang up to date with contemporary keys, kits and breaks borrowed from other formats.


Currently supported source formats that translator will convert to E-mu banks

Akai/MESA/Pulsar
Akai MPC Series
Akai S-5000/Z Series
Apple EXS24
Emu E3/ESi
Ensoniq EPS/ASR
GigaStudio
Kurzweil
MOTU MachFive
NI Battery
NI Kontakt
Reason
Propellerheads Recycle I & II
Roland S-7x
Roland S-50/550/330/W30
SampleCell I & II (PC/Mac)
SoundFont
Cakewalk SFZ
ShortCircuit
Steinberg HALion
Unity DS-1/Session
Roland Fantom Series
Steinberg LM-4
NI Reaktor
NED Synclavier
WAV-AIFF-SD2-etc.

So if you want to use some third party presets for inspiration, Translator would make a huge improvement on the ageing E-mu/akai librarys, plus it will allow easy bank building using third party interfaces.
Seems impressive.
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Re: Patch creation using NNXT and pitch detection

Postby atomicmidi » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:14 am

Now if only there was a way to make patches with continuous control already set up.. ? :???:

Anyone know if this is possible to do with Constructor?

It promises patch editing.. perhaps it can add continuous control to patches that don't have it set up.. would be awesome!!!! :shock:
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