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Do any forum member know how to import wav files from a CD and how to map them to a keyboard layout????

You intend to do this in the e-mu? It can read wav from floppies, but it takes forever. Your best hope is either translator or actually sampling the wavs into the e-mu.

You can use wavesurgeon, recycle, and tools like translator to do it.

I have a nice technique where I do this.

1. Get the wave samples you want.
2. using audacity or soundforge or whatever editor you use, create one big wave file with each sample end to end with a 1-2 second gap between
3. Using Wavesurgeon or Recycle, set it to detect the 1-2 second gaps and ensure each sample start trigger is at the beginning of your loops manually if the detection is not accurate, or there are existing gaps within each sample you are looking to map.
4. Over SCSI have Wavesurgeon or Recycle send each wave to the sampler
5. Wavesurgeon or Recycle will map each chunk to a new key. Voila - instant "set". you then need to tweak the filter etc settings and save it.

Sending over SCSI allows the app to map each key as it sends each loop.

This assumes you have a SCSI connection. This is a super fast way to get a complex set of drum samples into the sampler. Its my favorite way of creating mapped drums - you can then take your "master" drum set and process it to F*ck in the sound editor, then dump it down to the sampler in seconds and use it instantly. Process individual slices, compress then, distort them, phase a group so you can have "phased" slices in sequence. Perfect for minimal or D&B glitch sets.

Another technique is described here:

http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center ... 09/10/1999

I'm unashamedly cutting and pasting it as this article is from '99 and who knows how long it might be up:

The technique below is cool if you can burn stuff to CD or simply play it out of your PC/Mac into the sampler. Even cleaner if its digital out to in, but sampling is all about mucking around with sound, so mess it up!!








the article:

Automatically mapping samples in Emu Ultra samplers
09/10/1999

Today's tip comes from our friend Larry at Emu/Ensoniq.

Sampling is an art form, but Emu Ultra Samplers make it accessible to all. Today let's take a look at setting up our sampling page so that each sample we take automatically gets assigned a mapping to a preset of our choice.

Let's sample a Loop, with a plan to sample multiple loops into one preset.

1. Connect an Audio CD player - the CD Player OUTS to Sample INS on the back of the Ultra.
2. Put an Audio CD into the CD Player, perhaps "Phatt Beats" or some other loop CD.
3. Create a new preset - "Preset Manage", "New", "Location", "Name"
4. Press "New Sample"
5. "Source" (sample rate, select 44.
6. - "Length" (in seconds, select 20 seconds)
7. Audition your source material (press play on your CD player), adjust the source volume or input attenuation if necessary so the bars don't peg the end of the graph.
8. Stop your CD player.
9. Begin sampling By Pressing "Force"
10. Play your sound or loop to be sampled.
11. Stop the sampling when you have enough material or when you run out of time it will stop. If you need more than 20 seconds, simply press discard and change sample length and do it again!
12. The next menu has the cool "auto" functions...."Truncate" Do you want the Ultra to automatically Truncate the beginning, end, both or not? Select "Both".
13. "Normalize" - Do you want the Ultra to leave the audio alone, or boost it as loud as possible, Relative to the stereo sound or Absolute (both sides equal in volume)? Select "Relative".
14. "Auto Loop" - You can do this, but why when we have Beat Munging (see TTOTD 7/21/99)? Select "Off".
15. "Range" - Select "White key per voice"
16. "Orig" - Select C1 (you can play the note on the keyboard)
17. "High Note", Select C1
18. "Low Note", Select C1
19. "Target" - Select the preset you just created
20. Press "Place"

The Ultra will place that sample in your new preset on C1 with a range of C1 - C1 and will return to the new sample page, ready to take another and place it in the same preset on D1, with a range of D1 - D1. Etc.

As I said, sampling is an art as well as a technique, but with an Ultra you have the most powerful tools available to help you along.

kalide wrote:You can use wavesurgeon, recycle, and tools like translator to do it.

I have a nice technique where I do this.

1. Get the wave samples you want.
2. using audacity or soundforge or whatever editor you use, create one big wave file with each sample end to end with a 1-2 second gap between
3. Using Wavesurgeon or Recycle, set it to detect the 1-2 second gaps and ensure each sample start trigger is at the beginning of your loops manually if the detection is not accurate, or there are existing gaps within each sample you are looking to map.
4. Over SCSI have Wavesurgeon or Recycle send each wave to the sampler
5. Wavesurgeon or Recycle will map each chunk to a new key. Voila - instant "set". you then need to tweak the filter etc settings and save it.

Sending over SCSI allows the app to map each key as it sends each loop.

This assumes you have a SCSI connection. This is a super fast way to get a complex set of drum samples into the sampler. Its my favorite way of creating mapped drums - you can then take your "master" drum set and process it to F*ck in the sound editor, then dump it down to the sampler in seconds and use it instantly. Process individual slices, compress then, distort them, phase a group so you can have "phased" slices in sequence. Perfect for minimal or D&B glitch sets.

Another technique is described here:

http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center ... 09/10/1999

I'm unashamedly cutting and pasting it as this article is from '99 and who knows how long it might be up:

The technique below is cool if you can burn stuff to CD or simply play it out of your PC/Mac into the sampler. Even cleaner if its digital out to in, but sampling is all about mucking around with sound, so mess it up!!








the article:

Automatically mapping samples in Emu Ultra samplers
09/10/1999

Today's tip comes from our friend Larry at Emu/Ensoniq.

Sampling is an art form, but Emu Ultra Samplers make it accessible to all. Today let's take a look at setting up our sampling page so that each sample we take automatically gets assigned a mapping to a preset of our choice.

Let's sample a Loop, with a plan to sample multiple loops into one preset.

1. Connect an Audio CD player - the CD Player OUTS to Sample INS on the back of the Ultra.
2. Put an Audio CD into the CD Player, perhaps "Phatt Beats" or some other loop CD.
3. Create a new preset - "Preset Manage", "New", "Location", "Name"
4. Press "New Sample"
5. "Source" (sample rate, select 44.
6. - "Length" (in seconds, select 20 seconds)
7. Audition your source material (press play on your CD player), adjust the source volume or input attenuation if necessary so the bars don't peg the end of the graph.
8. Stop your CD player.
9. Begin sampling By Pressing "Force"
10. Play your sound or loop to be sampled.
11. Stop the sampling when you have enough material or when you run out of time it will stop. If you need more than 20 seconds, simply press discard and change sample length and do it again!
12. The next menu has the cool "auto" functions...."Truncate" Do you want the Ultra to automatically Truncate the beginning, end, both or not? Select "Both".
13. "Normalize" - Do you want the Ultra to leave the audio alone, or boost it as loud as possible, Relative to the stereo sound or Absolute (both sides equal in volume)? Select "Relative".
14. "Auto Loop" - You can do this, but why when we have Beat Munging (see TTOTD 7/21/99)? Select "Off".
15. "Range" - Select "White key per voice"
16. "Orig" - Select C1 (you can play the note on the keyboard)
17. "High Note", Select C1
18. "Low Note", Select C1
19. "Target" - Select the preset you just created
20. Press "Place"

The Ultra will place that sample in your new preset on C1 with a range of C1 - C1 and will return to the new sample page, ready to take another and place it in the same preset on D1, with a range of D1 - D1. Etc.

As I said, sampling is an art as well as a technique, but with an Ultra you have the most powerful tools available to help you along.

Thanks for the info I will need to get another scsi cable.

I just thought do I need to terminate any of the scsi devices if I chain a cd-rom and hardrive to my form my hardrive to the PC ????

Depends if its in the middle or at the end. If its in the middle it should not be terminated, only endpoints (physical ends) need termination.

If you are unclear:

http://www.tweakheadz.com/surviving_scsi_hell.html

You can use Translator to do this handily and easily, using one of two methods:

You can convert a folder of WAVE files into EOS format. This places the fiels from left to right across the keyboard in a Preset. You can choose Chromatic, White Key, Black Key, or it can take the note from the WAVE file itself (embedded) or from the file name.

You can use the Script Mapper to design a Preset using a spreadsheet or text file. Then run the Script Mapper to create the .e4b or EOS Bank.

Then write it to a EOS formatted disk or Virtual Drive, and your Emu can read it.

Our upcoming Constructor program will do this in spades, just drag the folder over and it maps it (somewhat) automatically for you.

http://www.chickensys.com/products/sw_i ... onstructor

Works on PC and Mac.

chickeneps wrote:Works on PC and Mac.

thats good to know.

must be nice to sell to a captive audience.

PC and Mac owners are a captive audience? I don't understand.

Are you requesting a Linux version? That's actually possible, we'd consider it if there was enough support.

Please email support@chickensys.com if you are interested.

chickeneps wrote:You can use Translator to do this handily and easily, using one of two methods:

You can convert a folder of WAVE files into EOS format. This places the fiels from left to right across the keyboard in a Preset. You can choose Chromatic, White Key, Black Key, or it can take the note from the WAVE file itself (embedded) or from the file name.

You can use the Script Mapper to design a Preset using a spreadsheet or text file. Then run the Script Mapper to create the .e4b or EOS Bank.

Then write it to a EOS formatted disk or Virtual Drive, and your Emu can read it.

Our upcoming Constructor program will do this in spades, just drag the folder over and it maps it (somewhat) automatically for you.

http://www.chickensys.com/products/sw_i ... onstructor

Works on PC and Mac.

When will constructor be available??

It is now our preference that we only announced this product when it was shipping, but we'd already let the cat out of the bag. It's a lot fairer to people to announce only when it's available; I wish we hadn't in hindsight.

We are working hard on it, I don't have a date although I think it will be soon. The only purpose for the announcement is to let everyone know at least something is being worked on.

That soft looks very handy.. be able to create banks on computer then dump them over to my emu by zipdrive!

chickeneps wrote:It is now our preference that we only announced this product when it was shipping, but we'd already let the cat out of the bag. It's a lot fairer to people to announce only when it's available; I wish we hadn't in hindsight.

We are working hard on it, I don't have a date although I think it will be soon. The only purpose for the announcement is to let everyone know at least something is being worked on.

It would be very useful if that were available now as some of use have GBs of samples we would like to allocate and translate.

Just wondering is constructor in its beta testing phase????

I can't tell you; although I wish I could.

We like to get really ahead of the curve, so when we are testing it we actually can do something about it instead of being behind and making people wait. In other words, lots of waiting now, then when it comes it's bam-bam-bam.

chickeneps wrote:I can't tell you; although I wish I could.

We like to get really ahead of the curve, so when we are testing it we actually can do something about it instead of being behind and making people wait. In other words, lots of waiting now, then when it comes it's bam-bam-bam.

Any up dates yet, because I have a few gigs of samples I want to use??