[Solved]Envelopes EOS4.7? --> Envshaper attached

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Re: [Solved]Envelopes EOS4.7? --> Envshaper attached

Postby ja-ki » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:07 am

I see your point on pitch and filter. But the filter for me on drums is either set once and kept there (so no need for a midi controler) or being driven by its envelope or did I miss something? Okay, if I wanted to do automation stuff I could still get the envelopes right (if they don't need to be automated) and then reassign the midicontrollers for the filters, settings should be kept, right? So we have the possibility to use 12 controllers for layering 3 sounds on one midichannel, assigning a filtersweep to an envelope (we still have the filterenv left) and some lfo action (or something else, there are so many sources!) for the pitch. Actually.. who does this? :D at one point I could simply resample for sure, internally for less quality loss. This can happen in almost no time including reassigning the sample to a voice.
Btw I did some extensive testing of the preset today. Tbh, it was one of the biggest moments for me realising why one should use hardware. I used some audio recordings I did with a small handheld recorder and assigned them to a few voices (I actually save presets of the same thing with more or less voices, so I don't have to copy but simply load) and started mangling with the 4 controllers. Within 5 minutes (after recording!) I was in sounddesign heaven. I felt like I could make a groove out of everything and as I added one of the internal FX (flanger with properly set feedback and LFO rate) the sound opened a whole new sphere. Unfortunately I realised my midicontroller was quite unprecise in CC value readout (jumps from 1 to 4 for example), but the capabilties with such simple parameters... wow! Creativity outrules every whatnot complex fx chains in your daw (which of course can be applied too). I'm totally amazed right now of what that EOS can do and how it supports you in defining your sound. I could go on...

Btw, why 16 channels? In multimode it has 32?
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Re: [Solved]Envelopes EOS4.7? --> Envshaper attached

Postby JAHFUNK » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:37 am

ja-ki wrote:
Btw, why 16 channels? In multimode it has 32?


Yes same for me, but that's only the case for users with 2 midi ins, correct?
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Re: [Solved]Envelopes EOS4.7? --> Envshaper attached

Postby nuts » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:24 pm

Apart from the fact that the envelope transitions are linear and not exponential (as found on an analogue synth) the envelopes are good, an exponential option would have been better


Maybe it was already said, sorry if this is the case but:

By modulating an envelope by itself you can achieve Exponential and Logarithmic curves. Just modulate the envelope stage you want with the same envelope.
Let's say you send a positive modulation amount, you get LOG response. A negative amount gives you EXPO response.


Out of subject but if you want longer envelope times for long evolving textures, you can send the envelope in a LAG. I'm sure there are more tricks in those E-mu.
I could have close to 30 min cycles in an Oberheim Xpander modulating envelopes that way.
(edit: just tried in the E-MU, succeeded getting 1'40" attack stage, not bad! )
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Re: [Solved]Envelopes EOS4.7? --> Envshaper attached

Postby JAHFUNK » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:46 pm

Sounds great, how about creating a thread to discuss log to expo chord and envelope settings.
I am VERY interested in this subject, I will have a play with the cords and see what happens.
Thanks for the tip.
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Re: [Solved]Envelopes EOS4.7? --> Envshaper attached

Postby ja-ki » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:36 pm

yeah I used to do that when I had my virus a few years back. But sometimes it overwhelmed my mind :D
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