emusonacid! legacy

Yeah - if you go to this site http://deepsound.net/calculs.html towards the bottom there is a bpm delay calculator.
Put in the BPM
Check on the right, it gives settings for hz.
Use these settings for the LFO rate.
The EMU Rates do not give enough fine-tuning to be completely exact but it's very good for shortish stabs.Use Filt Freq in the cords section, or of course any other destination you want, panning, pitch anything

The LFOs in the emu can be perfectly matched to whatever temp you are using. Its explained perfectly in the emu manual, pg 270.

If you don't have the manual, try this.

-The sequencer/Arpeggiator clock can be used as a modulation source.
It can be used to syncronize an LFO s rate to the tempo of your tune

-Turn the BPM in the arpeggiator screen until it matches the tempo of your tune ( remeber to hit stop otherwise the arp will be on)


-To sync an lfo to the clock, patch a clock divisor to the LFO Trigger (TRG)
in the cords screen. Make the value +100

-The clock source is available in six divisions, (double whole note,whole note,half note, quarter note, eigth note and sixteenth note)

-IF the LFO rate is close to the clock rate, THE LFO WILL SYNCHRONIZE WITH THE CLOCK. If the two rates are far apart, the waveform of the LFO will be mildly or radically altered.

Hope this helps, let me know if theres something unclear in the post

PEacE!

i will give this a go tonight, after i am done with my break. i was going to ask this question soon enough. my lfo on this on sound i am using in the song i am working kind of lags or something. i don't know... but i bet this will help out... i will let you all know how it works, and maybe later you will hear it...

Diamond wrote:-IF the LFO rate is close to the clock rate, THE LFO WILL SYNCHRONIZE WITH THE CLOCK. If the two rates are far apart, the waveform of the LFO will be mildly or radically altered.

This seems to have had quite unpredictable results when I've tried it in the past (probably cos I've had no idea whether the rate is close) - Also close is a bit vague???. What I will do tonight is:
- use the lfo rates on the calculator page
- set the bpm of the internal sequencer
-That way the lfo rates will be close and there should be a perfect sync

there should be a perfect sync regardless. There really isn't a whole lot to do. The emu can and does sync to midi clock perfectly. just set a midi clock out of your sequencer to go to the emu. It will lock on perfectly and the arp and lfo will all follow the tempo of your song in the sequencer it is being sent from.

rippin snare wrote:there should be a perfect sync regardless.

I have just set my sequencer clock to external and sent clock sync from cubase.
For the first time ever it is syncing up using this method (I swear!!!). Now when you say there should be perfect sync regardless you are right. However if the rate isn't near the bpm you get a deformed syncing square wave!! You don't get a quarter or whatever you have chosen in the cords - and you get like a 25% Pulse and other percentages but it does sync. I've just experimented and I think using the calcs on this page you can get true quarters or whatever - Still no triplets unless you use the Manual LFO sync.
It has never quite worked for me before - the only difference is that a couple of days ago I hooked up a midi cable to the midi out port on the emu and merged the ins using a phil rees box - is midi out required for this to work?
Either way - yesterday I had 0 reliable methods for syncing LFOs - today I have choices!

hehe good job. I'm glad it worked out for you.

it really hasn't worked for me yet... unless i wanted siren sounding lfo pitch bends... you know like how the cops do thiers with the long pitch change then the really fast ones....

i will try it again... i wonder were my midi setting is for sending out the external clock timing data....

what do then rate values mean for the lfos any... other than 0.02 meaning really slow... and 18.0whatever means it goes really fast. any body have any idea?

well i will give it another go here in just a moment... hope it works

i got this to work.. the only problem with it, is that when you boot up your sampler you have to reset it so it syncs poperly. even if you save it as a bank or preset. anyone have any ideas on how to make it so that when you loop up your bank the lfo still syncs?

Which method were you using Sampleandhold

Was it LFO rate -( hz)) - using the calculator...MIDI Clock or both (that's how I do it).

In terms of the rates if you look at the link at the top of the post when you type a bpm it converts it to rate which equates to the EMU LFO rate...

i was using diamond's trick... i can't seem to find a way to send midi clock info to my sampler, and i am also not sure how to make the sampler recieve midi clock anyway, or how to make cakewalk the master and the sampler slave...i guess i will have to do some reading.

now are you able to have it sync no matter what rate the lfo is set at? so al you do is load up your sequence and go? that is what i am looking for.. but it seems that i have to turn the arp on again, or turn it on, then off again... just so the lfo goes sync. i will check that post also and see what it is... i wonder if i can write code for qbasic and get the same kind of calculator.... i will have to work with it. it works now, just inconviently for the moment.

ezman wrote:Yeah - if you go to this site http://deepsound.net/calculs.html towards the bottom there is a bpm delay calculator.
Put in the BPM
Check on the right, it gives settings for hz.
Use these settings for the LFO rate.
The EMU Rates do not give enough fine-tuning to be completely exact but it's very good for shortish stabs.Use Filt Freq in the cords section, or of course any other destination you want, panning, pitch anything

that reminds me the util viewtopic.php?t=39

i made for detecting the scsi link has a delay calc built in that calcs hertz from bpm (as well as milliseconds)

all ya need!

Its more fun to dial that shit in yourself. Try linking 2 LFOs to the same destination and working it so that they make some crazy pattern that you can't quite catch the rythm but that sounds buttah over a beat. Funk syncing that shit - I always get bad results - like it wont be quite on the ball - very close doesn't cut it though. Use your ears. Syncing LFOs is like "writing" a line using an arpegiator - its some casio keyboard preset shit.

Ok - pls excuse my belligerence and potty mouth - I am an asshole today (or is it everyday?) - ps yous should get on Friendster and bullshit with me alter ego Father Chester

I know what you're saying but.....I disagree! Sure sometimes you can get good results keying it in manually, but to just stick to this method as a matter of principle is to be erm....stooopid (me being an asshole now!). Sometimes things just sound better when they are on the beat or in time.
I agree very close doesn't really cut it but getting the hz as close as AND syncing to midi clock does lock the timing spot on!

Ezman

i made a new patch a few days ago to take the place of an old patch, and i was using an lfo to control various things, and i actualy have a different patch that is also being controlled too by an lfo. the strange thing is, the newest patch seems to sync even though i don't have the arp set to the proper bpm, however the second patch i talked about needs the arp set proper... really strange, and yes i do have the cords set the same for both patches and i have the lfo rates the same.

another strange thing, i seem to be able to control the speed of the second patch with the clock divisor, speeding it up and such, but nothing seems to happen when i try changeing the clock divisor on the first patch... it just stays the same...

i kind of don't understand why it does that... well as long as it works.