emusonacid! legacy

Alright, im getting pretty frustrated with the community here. As of now we have 871 registered members on emusonacid. Many of us are very passionate about our Emu's. Many of us dearly wish to continue to use them and make use of SCSI SMDI sample dumps.

Currently, the situation of SCSI SMDI for the EMU is pretty pathetic. On OS X, SCSI is an abomination. Adaptec stopped supporting Mac OS X back in 2002 so their drivers a completely foobar'd. Firstly, there are no PCI-Express SCSI cards under $500 to work with current Mac's. Older PCI Mac's running OS X have 2 applications that support SMDI dumps to samplers, Peak $500+ its slow as poo and locks up the EMU with a SMDI Xfer Timeout message which requires the EMU to be restarted. The other app is DSP-Quattro 119,00 euro 149.00 US$ but this also locks up the EMU with the same error. The A$$holes @ Propeller heads took years to release a Mac OS X version of Recycle, but in the process shafted us by completely removing all support for SCSI Samplers..wankers!!

The only cheap SCSI alternative for a non PCI Mac is the Ratoc Firewire to SCSI adapter, which in my situation is useless because it doesn't support daisy chaining. Then we come to the ONLY workable solution on the Mac. A PowerMac G3 or G4 that boots Mac OS 9x. These machines have PCI and cheap Adaptec 2960/2930 SCSI cards can be used. Peak and Recycle 2.0 work perfectly. But who the hell what's another huge old G4 siting around just to SCSI a sample across?? NOT ME!! Zuonics can't develop ZoEOS for MacOS 9x because it it JAVA based and if you had any idea of the state of Java on Mac OS 9x you'd understand this impossibility.

The only option as far as I can see (and im building now) is a cheapo small miniATX WinXP PC. A cheap Intel board with a single PCI slot can be bought for less than 100bux, a dual core Intel Core 2 duo for stupidly low amount. Im pleased now to relinquish my Mac OS X ambitions for ZoEOS, im doing a dedicated PC machine now for it.

I purchased ZoEOS when it first came out for 130 Euro in the anticipation of a Mac OS X version. I tested briefly on a PC back then and was surprised at how brilliant this worked. SCSI dumps were so smooth and trouble free. The preset creating and naming etc from the keyboard made using the EMU so much better that the front panel of the EMU.

I do have a few wishes for this software but sadly this may never happen. From what i've read only about 50 ppl have bothered to buy ZoEOS which is a huge shame considering I is our very last option for controlling the EMU and having it integrated with our current workflows. I think the potential of this app is HUGE. I fear however, the ultimate fate of the development is in demise due to the overwhelmingly low interest level. At the current asking price of 55 euros i think it is a great investment, not to be passed up. If we had 800+ of the members here buy this thing we could see a prosperous future for this application and have it developed further into other directions that could make it infinitely more useful. Like allowing ZoEOS to access the hard drives connected to the EMU's for transfer/receiving Banks over SCSI.

The dude who develops this is hugely talented and really is doing us all emuons a massive service for developing such an app which no-one else on the planet including emu gives a toss about.

I'd like to see ppl respond here to at least make their presence know as to their interest in the future of this apps.

bigups

Hey Drayon

I hear ya. What can I do to be supportive? I gave my money. I'm happy to help in any way I can. I have always hoped that the author of the software would open source it if they are not going to support it.

I wouldn't even be pissed off with having spent the money.

Oh well.

Sounds like ZoeOS is the mutts nuts as far as managing EOS Samplers is concerned but I'm a little hesitant to part with hard earned given the authors reputation (this is based purely on what I have seen here BTW, I know absolutely nothing about the author than has been presented on other threads here)

I would love to see an OSX version but as has been said, SCSI support for Macs has been dropped liked steaming turd and I doubt a Mac version will ever be made available. At the moment I have my 4 samplers attached to an old Windoze server using sound forge for sample transfer but it won't recognise my e6400s. I wonder if ZoeOS would fare any better.

Cheers,
Adam-V

i recently bought zoeos for use on an xp computer, works well. ill be available for any ideas presented here...

Being a Mac user, I bought an XP laptop so I can run ZoEOS. The program is great. Too bad the guy hasn't completed the current version, totally flaked on the OS X version, and seemingly has no plans for further devolopement. I'd say if the guy would commit to release version 1.5 for XP which he had planned to release before the OS X fiasco, and made it compatible with the latest java release, it would be a steal at 55 Euros. That being said, on XP, it's the only game in town for managing your E4, so you may as well buy it.

Can't be asked to buy it.

Soundforge 8 with scsi is good enough for me and my E-mu.

isnt that 'cant be arsed'?

its not expensive man, you would like it im sure.

I haven't used it for a while since I moved to Vista - has anyone got it working on Vista?

alien_brain wrote:isnt that 'cant be arsed'?

Adam-V wrote:Sounds like ZoeOS is the mutts nuts as far as managing EOS Samplers is concerned but I'm a little hesitant to part with hard earned given the authors reputation (this is based purely on what I have seen here BTW, I know absolutely nothing about the author than has been presented on other threads here)

On XP it works great already. I bought it two years ago and havent regretted it for a second. Lack of updates hasn't been an issue for me

Thanks for the feedback.

Cheers,
Adam-V

I just bought an old PCC 9600 at ebay , only for my both Emu?s.
There are so fantastic Software out there. Infinty, Alchemy, SonixxWorxx etc etc .
So Emu Hardware is already old fashioned , so the Evironmnet must be also Old fashioned. That?s it, it?s all. Keep it just simple as you can.

I also have a new Apple Intel , but i stopped the endless ware to get these both Worlds together...

...i think that?s the way.

Michael

Has anyone used ZoeOS via Parallels, VMWare Fusion or Boot Camp? If so, how well does it perform?

But who the hell what's another huge old G4 siting around just to SCSI a sample across?

As long as there are still these small SCSI adapters for the PCMCIA slot around (Adaptec and/or Ratoc), you really don't need more than a Powerbook (G3 Pismo or G4 upto 1GHz) and one of the specific apps to do the job.

Hardware samplers and SCSI on Mac unfortunately do share the same fate ... of being outdate (as far as support is concerned)


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Im will try it out if the man shows some sign of life.