emusonacid! legacy

I'm about to buy an EMU for the purpose of triggering phrase samples during live performance (recorded on a Mac as aiffs or wavs), and I'm trying to figure out what I'll need. I've been tearing my hear out trying to figure out the answers to these two questions, and I'll be VERY appreciative if anyone can help me in any way they can!

1) What will I need from the sampler if I want it to operate in a live context with no external devices? Seems like my best bet is a ESI4000 with a zip drive, or an internal hard drive, so I can load all my sounds up whenever I boot up the EMU without having to carry around an external zip or cd drive?

2) After editing the samples on the Mac, how do I then get my samples into the EMU in a format the EMU will understand? I imagine I'll need another zip drive to connect to my Mac with usb, or an external cd drive for the EMU, but does Mac software exist to write to the proprietary EMU format? If not, am I stuck recording and editing the samples using the EMU itself, or is there another easier way?

Thanks very much for your help!

I'm very interested in #2 too - I'm a Mac user and while I could keep a Windows PC setup for SCSI just to look after my sampler, I'm interested in how I could avoid this. I understand technically that I can save files in wav format to a removable FAT disk in EOS 4.7 and import those when I plug the disk into the sampler. But how do people do this in practice?

How useful is plugging a keyboard into your E-Mu in this context?

Steve

First, EMU-4000 is not an Ultra. It does not hav EOS 4.7

Last OS was 3.02 and it has its own proprietary disk format. Emu-4000 can trigger samplers from the front panel in audition mode but its pretty limited. Far easier to trigger from an external keyboard. However, getting samples in and out is going to be a struggle other then using software like translator, old ESI-WIN, SoundForge, Recycle on win XP. On a macbook intel you are hosed - there is no SCSI support that will work.

Emu Ultras with EOS 4.7 are ok - you can write WAV files to a disk and it can read it. You just can't have the disk talking to a PC or Mac and the ultra at the same time.

See "adding USB drives to Ultra post" - your on your own with this approach - its a "DIY" approach
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M

Elektron C6.

This is what I use to transfer my samples directly from my Mac to my EMU. Not as fast as scsi, but it works.

http://www.elektron.se/support/

Look for the mac download.

Hey crytek, What version of EOS are you running?

-s*

Just upgraded to 4.7

So the electron software creates WAV's and not necessarily EMU format obviously.

5c4r7 wrote:So the electron software creates WAV's and not necessarily EMU format obviously.

It doesn't creat wave files. It just transfer files from your computer to the emu.

Could you please explain your process of transferring? What components you use for this setup, what OS/Computer you are using, what OS you are running, etc... Do you know if this will work with an EMU running OS 4.6.2?

Thanks,

5c4r7 wrote:Could you please explain your process of transferring? What components you use for this setup, what OS/Computer you are using, what OS you are running, etc... Do you know if this will work with an EMU running OS 4.6.2?

Thanks,

It will work with 4.6.2. I had that before I upgraded.

Basically, the transfer is done via midi.

I have the midi in/out on my soundcard going into my emu. If you don't have a soundcard with midi support, get the m-audio uno. I also have that (so that I can use all 32 channels of midi on my emu).

Anyhoo,

When you open up c6, there should be a preference button (I'm at work and don't have the app in front of me). You can select your midi ports where you want to do the transfer.

So once that's done. Just drop say a wav file in the c6. Then on the Emu, just select Sample Edit > and hit F1. You should bring you into a menu. You are looking for DUMP. select that, and set the dump settings to Recieve. Then hit f5 or something to start that. afterwards, you should see that your emu is just waiting to accept the transfer.

Back on c6, just click the transfer button and you should see the app loading the sample(s) into your emu.

Some notes:

Samples MUST be in 16bit format. They will not transfer if they are not that bit size.

You can transfer multiple samples. Once the first sample is uploaded, the emu will go back to your default sample edit view. But it's still loading the other samples. If you move the jog wheel, you will see the other samples will start to appear.


I'm sure this was a butchered explination. I'll have a proper one once I get home and I'm infornt of my sampler.

and I'm on a mac btw... leopard.

Oh, so it's a MIDI Sample Dump Standard transfer utility.

Yeah, those are not nearly as fast as SCSI, but given the difficulty getting SCSI working on newer Macs, MIDI SDS might be the only option.

I use proteus VX freeware, convert banks in eos format and transfer preset via floppy
It work really fine