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well, since it is appearant that you can use a cdr to save your patches, samples and whatever to your emu, from what i have heard. i am looking for a different solution. and i am going to need help.

i found that i had an old scsi card... oh, and an old scsi cord. so what i am guessing i can do is daisy chain my emu to the computer and send my patches and samples via scsi. now, how do i go about doing this. this is my set up as it stands right now.

i have my emu, then i have it go into a glyph cd rom drive, then from that i have it go to my iomega zip drive. how would i go about getting it to transfer my samples to my computer? do i need any software to allow it to get there. i really don't care if i can access the info on my computer, what i really would like to do is just get it over there so i can burn it to a cd rom so i can have a physical back up. so really i would have it on my computer, zip disc, and cd. so, any help on getting me sorted with this would be great. i feel that i am actualy doing well enough that i need to actualy back my shit up

one thing though, because the emu saves thing with a different program, or language or whatever, do i really need to convert it over to fat, or just sending it to my computer is enough. i am wondering about this because if you have a jpg, but your computer can't read jpgs, you still have it as a jpg, you just need a translater, and so i figure i could just send the samples and all as is, and just use my emu to translate when needed.

any help would be great. ultimately i would love to be able to access my samples from the back up, using the external cd rom drive.

cheers.

A friend of mine uses Chickensys Translator on a PC with a scsi card and zip drive. He only connects the zip drive to the computer, not the emu. The zip disks dont have to be FAT.
He can then drag and drop emu banks onto a 650 meg virtual emu drive on the PC's hard drive. This virtual drive can then be burnt to emu CD rom using Nero.

Andrew

What i do is:
I have an internal ide harddisk in the emu and a scsi card in the pc. I also have a scsi disk inside the pc which is fat formated. I use the backup function in the emu to get things over to the pc. from there i can manage the bank like nobodys business - burn them out on cd or just let them sit there..

ps! For some reason I can't boot in to XP when backing up, cause XP tries to controll the disk every now and then resulting in a freeze in the emu. Solution: put any old diskette in to the pc when booting - this way you halt the booting. The scsi disk can still be reached from the emu.

well i looked back and saw some stuff on doing this. but i am concerned that i may not be able to

i have windows 98, appearantly the first edition. i need to get a scsi card, god i hope that isn't going to be hard. i like the idea of just hooking it up to the computer. that would work so much easier. one thing though. i think i have lost the software to my zip disc, i mean it has been really long time, and i didn't put it on my computer or anything. so do i need to have my software for the zip? i guess i can find it on line.

i really like the idea of using drag and drop to get the image. i just want to back up all my samples you know. i guess first things first get a scsi card that will work.

were do you get that translator? online? and is nero the only thing i can use to burn an image or can i use any cd burning software? oh and do i have to partition my hd to make the virtual emu drive?

oh and thanks for all the input.

if you go for an internal scsi HD ou will not need do use translator or any image stuff. you can handle the files like any other file on a windows disk. so you just use nero to burn backup cds.

My friend uses an Adaptec 2904 card, I've seen them new on ebay for about ?25ish and I think he's using Windows ME.
He didn't need to use Iomega zip software, Translator recognised the drive straight away. There's no need to partition the hard drive as translator creates an emu.img file which is 650 meg big and sits on your hard drive. When he's finished compiling the cd in translator he renames emu.img file to emu.nrg which nero recognises, double clikcing on this kickstarts nero into burning the emu rom. I'm pretty much sure you dont have to use nero. There should be more info at the Translators website http://chickensys.com/translator/.
To be honest I'm torn between making images from a scsi external HD or getting Translator. An external scsi HD looks like it is the cheaper option.

Andrew

okay...

so you guys are saying that if i take external hd route, i can just load all my info onto the hd from the zip, then turn everyting off, patch the scsi hd over to my computer's scsi card, and from there just drag and drop over to my cd burner, and that is all i have to do?

i hope i am understanding this right. thanks for all the input. almost there

That's basically it - save the banks you need onto your external hard drive, making sure you dont exceed the 650meg rom limit. You will need software that will take a snapshot of this external hard drive and burn it to your cd rom. The goldenhawk software will do this. The Tweakheadz page is really useful http://www.tweakheadz.com/CDR.html.

illinformed wrote:That's basically it - save the banks you need onto your external hard drive, making sure you dont exceed the 650meg rom limit.

Though it's mentioned at Tweakheadz I just want to emphasize that you need to make sure the drive capacity doesn't exceed 650mb/700mb. I got a 4gb external drive and the snapshot is of all drive space, not just what you used

that is if you want a emu formated cd, but there is no need for that, unless you really need to read directly from cd to emu. else you can burn a normal "FAT" cd, and ifyou loose your internal emu hd or something, just load the backup data cds into your computer and dump from there.

so basically, i can take the cd i made that is in fat and if my hd crashes, and it whipes out the info, i can then just send the cd back to the hd, and the emu will still be able to load all of it with out an issue?

i am sorry if i am ignorant of this stuff, i pretty much know what i am doing with stuff, but i try to keep things simple and to this end that is why i haven't tried backing up, but i need to know.

thanks for all the advice, i think i am going to go the hard drive route.

yes, if you mean a scsi harddisk inside your pc.
You use the backup function from within the emu to get files from the pc scsi fat formated hd to the emu internal hd. you smply choose the pc disk as source and the internal emu one as destination.

hope this helps..

thanks guys. i am going to play around with this a little. if i have any more concerns or questions i will be back...

thanks for all the tips, patients, and time.