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I have recently acquired an e6400 ultra, eos 4.61, can i load wave files onto a cd and transfer them to the emu via scsi? I've read of only transferring such formats through floppys.

EOS 4.61 or even EOS 4.70 (beta) cannot recognize CDs with ISO-standard file format.
Therefore you cannot burn WAV-files or EOS Banks to a CD with a PC or MAC and then load them into the E4.

You can transfer samples via SMDI, the "SCSI Musical Data Interchage" protocol, with an application such as Sony SoundForge, Steinberg Wavelab.
Maybe also with Adobe Audition (the former "CoolEdit Pro"), BIAS Peak and some others that support hardware-samplers via SMDI.

So actually if you don't have a sample editing application that supports SMDI, you have to use floppy discs.

Is this a format? Lets say I have a wav file then convert into this format and burn a disk then transfer to my emu through my scsi drive would it read it? Or would i have to buy an Smdi drive or whatever?

In addtion with EOS 4.70 you can format ext. HD (better removable media) with FAT 32. It is recommended to use two (same) drives (for example let's say 2 Zip-drives, one USB for PC, one SCSI for E-mu), format them with FAT 32, you can then save wav-files directly to those media, and exchange the media between the drives. Like mosrob wrote you cannot put the latter on CD-R, but you can make an image of an E-mu formatted ! SCSI drive/media, and burn that to CD.

Rascal Revenge wrote: but you can make an image of an E-mu formatted ! SCSI drive/media, and burn that to CD.

So basically it would be like loading E-mu patches? If so, is there any software I could download to convert files into this format? Also my ultra came with a 200gb hard drive i'm not planning on taking that out.

This guy Tweak has also some interesting threads over at his site:

http://www.tweakheadz.com/CDR.html

Also maybe of interest (check sticky-threads):

http://studio-central.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=82830c88715bc229afdfa8add18cd5fe

ReasonableLogic wrote:Is this a format? Lets say I have a wav file then convert into this format and burn a disk then transfer to my emu through my scsi drive would it read it? Or would i have to buy an Smdi drive or whatever?

You don't need a drive to use SMDI; you connect your computer's SCSI interface (if it has one) directly to your sampler's SCSI port. I use Awave and an Adaptec SlimSCSI CardBus SCSI interface.

Suffice it to say, being able to batch transfer hundreds and hundreds of sounds in and out of the sampler on a whim is extremely convenient. If it wasn't for SMDI transfers and the ASCII port, I would probably have sold my E-mu by now.

Another way for transferring samples from the PC (or Mac) to the E4 is to use Chickensys Translator.
Some years ago I created a 700MB HD-image in EOS-FAT format.
When using Translator you can mount an ISO-file (here: the EOS-FAT image) and then drag an drop samples and "externalized" E4-Banks on this virtual HD.
Later on you just have to burn it on a CD or CDRW and you are able to load the files via a SCSI CD-Rom drive into the E4.

Somewhere in this forum it is written that you need EOS 4.0 or higher to read .WAV/.AIFF files.

You have to know that the files are displayed as .WAV files with an "EIII/ESi"-icon and they are unmapped.
So you have to load every sample one by one and then setup a preset.

There are some EOS file system limitations regarding the size of the "CD-Rom":
- maximum of 100 folders per image file
- maximum of 100 files per folder
-> maximum of 6400 .WAV files on this image file.

As I'm using FAT32 and I have 2* ZIP100-drives (SCSI & IDE/PATA) and I also have some external SCSI-HDs (2.1GB, 2* 4.3GB & also an IDE-HD with a SCSI-IDE-Bridge adapter), I'm able to use one of this external drives for file exchange.
I always asked myself why Emu did never implement FAT32 also for the classic line. Please don't say: Because of the limited CPU FLASH!!!
If I had the choice between file formats like FAT32 and the bundle of "AKAI, Roland, Ensoniq" I would decide "pro FAT32" because of the higher usability.
One thing "why E4-users sell their sampler and tend to use software-sampleplayers" is that file interchange is very unconvenient with the E4 in contrast to a modern software solution.

thanks for the support, but however since it is a sampler, can't i just sample the libraries in and turn them into presets?? i've been reading the manual and idk if i skipped it but i don't see where it says how to turn a sample into a preset.

"...how to turn a sample into a preset"

You actually CREATE and (preferably) name a PRESET under PRESET MANAGE (or use the default one, there is always a blank Preset left even if you ERASE ALL) then place the sample(s) in SAMPLE MANAGE. Another way is to go to PRESET EDIT, create a new Voice (V2, V3 etc.) and choose the Sample (-number) and their placement(s) there.