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Hi
Hoping someone can assist me with this.
I have an 20GB ide drive inside my E4 Platinum That I have decided to upgrade to increase onboard sample storage.
I want to install a new 160GB drive. This was bought for another device but it was never used, so it is kicking around and would be the cheapest option to me.
I understand it will work with the emu but the sampler will only see the first 127GB (is this correct)
I have a new Western Digital Scorpio 160GB ATA Harddrive (wd1600bevs) My Emu is already connected to a 3.5 ide drive so no futher cables are needed, but the drive needs an pin adapter so that it will fit the existing connector inside the sampler.
It would be really helpful if someone would post a link for the correct adapter available to by from ebay. I have already bought one but it has the wrong pins to fit the new drive.
The drive I intend to use has conectors like the one on the left my adapter is for the drive on the right.

Anyone able to help P-L-E-A-S-E

updated

will this work
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5-3-5-Drive-SATA-ATA-IDE-Converter-Adapter-/330366397164?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item4ceb5f2aec

Hold up, Jahfunk... I don't think you'll have any joy using a SATA drive, even via an adapter. A member on here once asked an E-mu engineer about the hard drive controller; it makes for useful reading: viewtopic.php?p=12531#p12531

Unless you want to explore the various PATA/IDE to SATA adapters out there, I'd suggest going with native IDE/PATA.

Thanks for your reply Ommatidium

Ok I bought a
WD Scorpio WD1200BEVE 120GB IDE ATA hard drive
http://desc.shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=WD1200BEVE&_sacat=0&_sop=2&_dmpt=UK_Computing_HardDrives_RL&_odkw=WD1200BEVE&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=1&_rdc=1


and one of these
2.5" Laptop to 3.5" Desktop IDE Hard Drive Adaptor
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290476480163&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

will this do the job?

Yes, and as it happens this the same drive and adapter I have in my E-mu.

Note that the 2.5" side of the adapter has no "key" to prevent you connecting it upside down, so take care when installing it. IIRC, the jumper pins on the 2.5" HD should line up with the redundant contacts (?) on the adapter PCB.

I noticed a considerable improvement in transfer speeds upgrading from my ancient 6GB HD to the WD 120GB. Reading and writing in FAT32 was pretty laborious on the old drive.

Big thanks for your help. Just a couple more things.
As this E-mu already has an ide drive installed is it correct to assume that with the replacement drive I should slot in the power cable as is (not reverse wired)?
Do I need to set any jumpers on the drive pins (if so what is the arrangement)?
Sorry about all the questions but I am not that technically minded with drive installation, and I would prefer my baby did not go bang (only my drum samples)

Yes my friend, if it worked with your previous IDE drive, the polarity stays the same.

Check with voltmeter if not sure.. I learned the hard way - burnt SCSI to IDE bridge.. ouch.

No need to worry about the jumpers; it will default to Master.

Ditto Atomicmidi, on the power setup. You should have E-mu's kooky power cable as standard, so you can leave the motherboard end of the cable connected and just fit the Molex (power) plug to the HD adapter. (The plug has two curved corners, so you'll know which way round it goes.)

Seems straight forward. I feel more confident to tackle this now.
I'll update when the drive arrives and is installed.
Thanks guys. Have one on me


Ommatidium, something for you (fascinating - makes the design of the E-mu look like kindergarden stuff)

YESSSS
It's Fitted and works like a dream
it's also quieter than the 20gb fireball (JUST ABOUT SILENT)
Thanks for the info

Thats great you got that sorted out. You should post a little walk through so others can follow what you did would be a great help!

jamie8286 wrote:Thats great you got that sorted out. You should post a little walk through so others can follow what you did would be a great help!

If you hunt around a bit you can do this upgade quite cheaply.
I would recommend you go with a brand new drive as your data is so precious
I bought a drive, adapter and velcro for under £40, - not bad for a new 120GB drive fitted, and I could always sell the old drive to pay for this (but I wont)

For users with an existing ide drive, that want to max out onboard storage with a near silent drive.

WALKTHROUGH
1 See my shopping list and buy it
2 slot the adapter to the 2.5 inch drive
3 Unscrew and remove E-mu's outer case, Unhook old drive
4 slot in new drive and test befor rescrewing outer case
5 to fix drive to inside of the sampler I used strong velcro strip (this has a very good adhesive on the back of the tape)
Once the backing is peeled off one side of the strip (loop side) I fixed this to the top of the drive. After finding the best location for the drive inside the case I then peeled the backing off the other side (hook side) and stuck it in place.
Simple



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Velcro-Self-Adhesive-Sticky-2mtrs-x-20mm-hook-loop-B-/370391985334?pt=UK_Crafts_Sewing_Supplies_MJ&hash=item563d152cb6

The tape is great as you can simply prize apart the two halves to get the drive out.

Oh and by the way I first backed up my old drive onto an external SCSI drive
Then it was just a case of backing up the SCSI drive onto the new IDE drive after formating it in FAT.

It is probably easy enough to back up the old drive onto a pc by hooking it up to a computers ide bus and saving contents onto the PCs drive.
Then later hooking up the new drive, formating it in FAT and loading the backup from the computers drive.

If your gonna use a 2.5 ide you might aswell get rid of the floppy drive & install a removable bay that way you can backup precious samples & presets straight to your pc/mac via usb & also drag and drop wavs from pc/mac to emu hard drive. http://www.emusonacid.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2561 just what ever you do dont go for anything by icy dock. Ive tried them and they are shit. It was hard to find a working system so i ended up just buying a kit with instructions from a guy online and it works great.

This looks cool, interesting idea. I just use two 250 zip drives for file transfer but this could be a better option.
Can it be safely hot swapped?
Who is this guy online you bought from?

Yeah. It helps with workflow immensely.
dunno about hot swapping i haven't tried yet. will try later & let you know.
He modifies studio equipment and i met him on a roland forum, cant remember his name but im sure if i search through my emails i might have his email address still if you want it?

Just tried the hot swap (i think).
Infact im not to sure what you meant and presume you mean taking the hd out and adding samples to it then putting back in the emu whilst the emus still on.
Anyway heres what i did. I made sure i wasnt in the disk/browse module then took the hd out, plugged it into my mac dragged a couple of wavs to it then put it back into the emu clicked disk/browse waited 3 secs, pressed mount and presto all was good & new wavs were present.