emusonacid! legacy

Hi Guys,

I have a Fully loaded E6400 Ultra and I'm thinking of selling it. not having the Time to use my studio anymore.
How much do you think it worth?

Fully Expanded?
Please elaborate.

128 voice upgrade, 128 mb Ram, RFX-32 with all the extra inputs and outputs, Keyboard input with wireless keyboard, 2nd midi connections, 2 Scsi connections, Scsi Hard drive and CDRom, Loads of sample discs. And theres a sound rom installed, But a cant remember what it is lol. And before i forget i have the manual for the RFX card and also operation manual for the sampler.

Wow sounds like it has all the spec of a Platinum.
So does it have
16 line outs
16 adat channel outs
8 adat ins,
4 extra buss ins
word clock,
if so then its the mutts nuts and should fetch £1000+

By the way I have moved this topic into the Buy Sell area

Yep, the only thing it doesn't have is flash ram.
Thanx Jahfunk.

…i just switsch in this Thread.

I have here a Platinum ( Fully Expanded ) but with 32 Flash Ram !

What is it worth ?

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I would list the platinum and flash ram as 2 separate items on eBay because the platinum then becomes more affordable.
If the person buying the sampler also wanted the flash ram they could also buy that to, but the flash ram is a desirable item in its own right and is suitable to all ultra owners ( more potential buyers)
Flash ram is like rocking horse shit but potential platinum buyers might not require it, therefor the price they would be prepared to pay for the complete package may fall short of your expectations.

A few weeks ago vds242 and I saw an advert announcing an e4 Platinum for sale:

This e4 Platinum was just an ordinary E4XT Ultra with the e4 Platinum name plate and the analog input option for the RFX-32.
The seller already sold the RFX-32, the analog output option and the adat option separately.
He was still calling 750 Euro for this "e4 Platinum" cadaver...
... explaining in a dismissive tone "the price is just a consequence of the missing components..."

Regarding the 32MB Flash RAM option (32MB for samples, 4MB for presets and the rest):
The last offers I saw were 200 Euro in France (12/2013), US $350 in USA (08/09 2013) and currently on ebay a 16MB Flash RAM for US $249, also USA.

What would be a reasonable price for a Flash RAM option that would have four times the capacity of the original EMU Flash RAM and would provide an integrated USB-interface for loading sounds and samples into the Flash RAM (...while the P2K is switched off)?

Your guess is as good as mine.
Based on the prices you quoted, work out a reasonable price to MB ratio and create an auction using that figure but use the offers feature of eBay to see how the land lies.

He was still calling 750 Euro for this "e4 Platinum" cadaver...
... explaining in a dismissive tone "the price is just a consequence of the missing components..."

It will not sell at the price asked, way better to buy an E6400 for 250-350€ and buying food with the rest imo.
I looked very often sampler ads on this website since ages. This ad still is available today, and the sampler will remained unsold. Until a rich or naive guy will buy it...that's about it, sad.

There's also that guy trying to grow up price in the second hand market selling an Emax for 1490€...the ad is there for about three years! Completely deconnected from what musicians are paying. You can get both EIII + EII for that kind of price if you dig enough or know some people.
This ad was already there in 2011 when I sold my E-max keyboard for 450€ with a servicing kit, flightcase, and hundred of floppies full of E-mu library's. Talked to the guy via the forum some weeks ago and he is still happy with it. Good Karma!:mrgreen:

I can understand people that bought it 5000£ back in 1999 or so, are trying to ask for a high price.
But to me they forget it is old technology, prone to fail. And most didn't even even serviced it, recapped for example. This is not serious imo.

Just sell it for a price you thing is good and make someone happy. ( me for example, i need an Emulator with Adat and can't afford one with rfx32. )

Thing is between a Platinum and an e6400 you can get quite the same results, you may not have all the bells and whistles but musically you can exactly do the same thing, in a way or another.

a platinum with out the extras is just a £300 machine as its the adat and audio and refx cards that bump up the price a platinum with out those is just a plain e4ultra

yes there are a lot of people who bump up the price of stuff

an emax with out scsi fetches £150-300depending on condition

a fully upgraded cf card slim floppy solution fetch upwards of £550

i have done over 25 conversions of emax to se hd cf drives

and many internal ensoniq conversions

i sold my refx card as i did not think it was that good and still prefer my pcm70 and 90 and my he3000 as they are way better fx machines and i prefer to have no fx at all on my sample instruments going into my mixer stage i only put it on in the mix as if you do delays or ping pong delays to tempo when you add them in the mix with mixer fx the timing can go all funny so plain none fx samples have always been best for me

no modulation fx filter sweeps and fx you do by the cords like in a modular situation thats different and you dont need the refx for that

and thew refx was never finished os wise and many faults

an item is only worth what some one is willing to pay

i was just trying to sell me ex5r fully loaded wanted £550

they sell for £300 with out any extras mine had the scsi interface extra outs and 16mb flash and full memory and a pcd-47b card drive

just the extras alone cost me over £400 but people want things for cheap so i made it standard put the floppy back in sold all the parts as separates as people said £550 was to dear i sold all the extra for £500 and kept the machine as standard and used the floppy to load just single cycles as it was better as the scsi implementation was to slow

people do make me laugh i brought a EII hd+ cost me £10000 in 1986 and £4000 for a macII with soundtools dsp card and sounddesigner which i still own

and they only fetch today a sum of £600-1000 if they have a hxc

the EIII that i have i see them only selling for £1000-1200 max the EII and EIII are the cream of emu samplers as the analog filters just make them sound so analog

Luv my Platinum... Having, what, 16 stereo sends of effects handy, including that awesome Vocoder, is worth the price alone(bugs and all), especially if you find one at the perfect price... And if you want to compare or replace the RFX, then of course it would have to be an entire rack filled with high end gear

I have a Kurzweil & also Eventide gear, so I can also judge what's top notch as well...

To me the RFX Card is irreplaceable considering how flexible it is, convenient(all in one box) and how much gear that would be needed to replace all of that power

You can ask whatever you want I guess in this subsidised capitalist society of ours but the prices of the E4 are ridiculous imo. I bought an ESynth (pre ultra with SW 4.01) with 2 esynth roms, already upgraded with the CF Card-to-SCSI card in place of the floppy, for about $200. I do think it sounds great but doubt it's worth a whole lot more in real terms. I have seen a few E4 ultras for sale around $400 and I wouldn't pay that. I know no-one cares about my opinion but I just want to add a voice of dissent in the forest of hype ... if that's not mixing my metaphors.