emusonacid! legacy

Since I'm pretty new to the emu I've been spending some time working out different ways to set up my drum presets so that I can eq my hits seperately on differeny mixer channels. I'd be really interested to hear how you guys go about it, maybe your experience could save me some time with trial and error.

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Well i used the s2000 for my drums as i could route each key to a different out. On the emu you can't do that - you can pan left/right for the kick drums and snare drums so I'd create 1 prog for that and then other seperate ones for everything else. You could use the same midi channel but different keyzones for each channel - that means you could play everything on the keyboard without having to change channel.

I've just found this from another post -


Krooz wrote:

This is what i do - slightly different to u guys.

All my drums go into one preset assigned to VOICE. (Always midi channel 1 - heard somewhere the timing is tighest on mc1 cos of the way sequencers trigger midi from top to bottom?? Can someone comfirm?)

Then assign kicks to Group 1
Snares Group 2
HH/Shakers Group 3

Then set submix for each group to the relevent out.

Usually ends up going out the adat summat like this

Kick - Main out Panned +64 left (to a mono Channel)
Snares - Sub 1
HH - Sub 2


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How do you set submix for each group? I can't even find submix.

Another thing, how do you get a mono channel to come out of both monitors? When i pan a channel hard left on my emu it comes out panned hard left in logic. Shouldn't it be central in the mix or am I really missing something here? Just seems a bit weird to have presets either on the left or the right but not in the middle. Is there a way round this without using stereo?

the bit about how logic is mirroring your emu. i would think since you adjust something in your emu, you get the same results in logic, where the emu sends the cc message and logic mirrors. i however don't play with logic so my experiance is that the emu overrides my cakewalk commands. so i can mix down using my emu over the faders in the digi mixer and save the presets as a bank and then when i recall that bank, all the levels are as they where.

sub mix is in the multi screen. you should see something where your sampler has the name of the preset, various cc's and then finally something that says voice. that is where submix is. you can adjust that to section where it says voice to main to sub1 and so on. then the effects in the master menu come into play. my subs come out of the mains that i have, i don't have extra outputs if i beleive, but if you have extra outs, i believe you can route the subs to the various outs....

remember, if you go into the alt A, sorry the preset edit screen of your drums, you can pan in there each individual voice, or hit. so you can group your kicks and such together and go into group edit and then adjust the pan for all of them. this might take care of logic panning for you, since this is an internal thing set up for the voice. as for panning, this is just a quicker way to record your samples faster and separate them. if you record into an audio program (at least with cakewalk, i would assume it is some what the same) and you have the drums panned hard left and right, what you are in fact doing is creating two tracks at once, instead of sitting through your seven minute long song twice. and when i record in cakewalk, every thing that i pan is lost, everything comes out dead center. but since i record in stereo pairs, i regain the pans that i had originally by taking each channel and panning hard left and right in the audio mixing board. so if you record your kicks hard left, and your snares hard right, your left channel of your stereo pair will be your kicks, sounding as if it is centered, and your right channel is your snares sounding as if they are centered, and thus you can make adjustments to your snares with out affecting your kicks. now if you panned your audio channels hard left and right, well, it will sound just like it did in your sampler as you recorded it. at least that is how i understand it, but i haven't done this yet, but have had a few times where i wished i did.

remember, mono samples, your poly will be eating up. i am also starting to beleive some of the really loud pops and clicks we get using the lpf's are do to polyphony being over loaded, i haven't even had any loud random pows and clicks since i converted down to mono and reduced polyphony.

hope this helps out a little bit.

Guys that helped out a lot, nice one. I never thought about hard panning individual voices. You were bang on about logic mirroring the samper too, really need to sort that out, tis very annoying. Any logic geniuses in here? I think the problem is that I have 8 gm channels set up in logic which are sending to the emu. Since I've only just started with this program I don't yet know any other way of setting it up. Anyone?