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live triggering setups

Postby ra coon » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:13 am

what are peoples methods of achieving a live setup , with multiple songs.
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Postby Silverman2 » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:01 pm

Is there not a jukebox function in the sequencer?

soz don't use it myself.

Can u dump midi from E-loader to the sampler?
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Postby ra coon » Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:56 pm

any help appreciated
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crsytal method

Postby somsay » Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:18 am

i saw crystal method live here in montreal a few months ago, and they got like a rack with 2 emus. Seems like they put all their drums in one sampler, and i saw a video from their site and they are using motus digital performer to sequence, but i think they then export the midi into one of the emus and that is the drums on one sampler, and they play their synths live, and i think the other sampler is for another song. so they maybe loading a track while the other is playing.
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Postby ra coon » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:28 pm

mmmm ? did they play all the songs from Vegas
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Postby Silverman2 » Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:17 pm

Judging from ur above posts ra coon, ur attitude seems demanding and a little spoilt.

Correct me if I'm just picking u up wrong!

btw. Dnb died on a mediterranean holiday island in 1998 :mrgreen:
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Postby ra coon » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:40 am

;)
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Postby Silverman2 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:24 am

hehe

nice back editing.


:)


btw how much ram do you have in ur sampler?
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Postby ra coon » Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:05 pm

nada ?
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Postby dantastic » Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:55 pm

when illinformed gets back off his tour of duty, im sure he'll give the lowdown on his live set up
hes very good you know
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Live Emu

Postby Adam B » Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:17 pm

I've been thinking about this a lot lately...

I use an e6400 ultra (4gig hd, 128 ram, no options) So I only have 16 channels. I use the Yamaha Rm1x to sequence and I just had this idea:

You could make two versions of each bank say
Bank A: all odd channels 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15
Bank B: all even channels 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16

So you only get 8 channells per song (unless you have 2nd midi option)

They are odd/even to minimize the delay inherent in MIDI. If you had 1-8 and 9-16 then 9-16 is to far delayed behind 1-8.

Then the trick is to merge 2 sequencers and then as you move through your set you can merge banks a,b,a,b,a,b etc. This is where it helps to have both versions of each song, so you can mix and match.

I think I'll try this soon, but I only have the one hardware sequencer right now. I would like to build a logic enviroment to help this process somehow. Any ideas? How do logic folders help facilitate this?

-Adam
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Postby ra coon » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:21 pm

where did illinformed go anyway?
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Postby illinformed » Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:14 pm

Tour of duty, sounds like I've been to war :grin: . I've been working a bit playing bass, nothing electronic unfortunately. I've been back for a few days now but it takes a while to catch up.

Anyways.

Adam B - I use an rm1x live too, top little machine. I hardly use song mode, I tend to flick in and out of several user patterns for each track.

The rm1x can only transmit 16 midi tracks at once so I end up using many different patterns per track. It's very rare for me to be playing 16 midi tracks at once so I'm very econmical and divide them up eg pattern 1 = intro ,2 =main song, 3=middle bit etc. Because of the beauty of Multisetups I never run out of tracks, I simply change the Multisetup as I change the pattern. I also put in linking patterns where the drums from the frist track are playing but with a the bassline from the 2nd.

The only limit here is there are only 99 Multisetups and 99 patterns on the rm1x but to be honest a 1 hour set will only use about 50 or 60 of each.

I can get away with this by the way I organise my presets. I've posted this before so sorry to repeat but basically what I've done is devised my own general midi. C1-D1 bass drum, D#1-F Hihats etc. I can't remember the specifics but somewhere I have 2 octaves of playable bass, 2 octaves of some sort of synth/keys for soloing etc - all in 1 Preset. It was hard to convert older songs to this format but now I have a main Preset template which I start all new ideas with. It basically means when I play live I can slowly evolve from one song to another. Thank god for Multisetups. Before my Ultra I basically had to change presets by hand, I still do to a certain extent but if I get lost or the track is going to change I just select the next Multisetup. If only Multisetup could be controlled by midi :(

My set is basically a jumble of completed songs (not many) and loops/ideas I've been working on and never finished (loads). I have to compromise a bit on ram but it's amazing what you can cut out or recylce. Anyway it doesn't take long to load in a bank if needed, as much as I hate and never use the rm1x sounds, they can be handy for continuity if something fresh needs loading in.

I have to say I love Ableton Live to bits and when I can afford it I'll get a laptop and run it alongside with my emu and rm1x. If Ableton can make their midi side of things as flexible as my rm1x midi then I'll ditch the blue box completely. If I can sort my compact flash to IDE idea out then there'll be no fiddly scsi to setup. Sorry to say but if the right software came out and it was rock solid then I'd probably go completely laptop.

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Postby dantastic » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:44 pm

my hero :loveit:
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