'sstart cord idea...

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'sstart cord idea...

Postby sampleandhold » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:41 pm

I know I posted this a year or more ago... The idea was that you use the 'sstart cord on your break that isn't cut up. You use the cord to move around the break. One problem with this is that you need to have a small sample.. Too large a sample will make it very difficult to land the hits....

How ever.. Cutting a break into 1 bar pieces would be enough to get pretty accurate hit placements. So... my idea... Why not use the 'sstart cord for beat chopping? Think about it. You take your amen break. Cut it down to 1 bar pieces. You then hit the same note over and over again for that bar and apply a CC to the cord and recreate the break using the 'sstart cord. If it sounds good at it's original speed then you go and space each note out from each other. Like you put a beat or so between each hit and then... RESAMPLE. Now you go through and trim each hit down and now you have a bunch of pieces that didn't take 4 days to cut up.

You may just need to fix some off time hits.. that kind of thing... but this might make cutting breaks go a bit faster instead of doing it by hand. I am going to play around with this idea and compare it with the old style of going through and cutting things by hand.

I bring this up because last night I am working with a guitar loop. I tried to cut it up and it didn't sound good. The reason is because of the sustained notes... so the joints are pretty easy to hear. So I used the 'sstart cord and it sounds much better. I think I did however cut the start off alittle too much so I need to fix that. I actually use the 'sstart cord to quanitize samples that dont' work to well with cutting up... Funny how that works.. I am basicually cutting the sample up... but not really. Strange.

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Postby jbuonacc » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:13 am

yep, this is a great idea. being able to assign sample start to midi CC was one of my main concerns when looking for a new sampler.

when i was using an MPC (which can only modulate sample start via velocity), i set up a patch on my Nord G2 using a value step sequencer which would send out different velocity levels for each note triggered. i don't use sampled loops but did this with speech/voice samples. this is even more flexible on the E-mu with its cord mod matrix. great stuff. reading through your old posts was very helpful in deciding that the E-mu was the right machine.
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Postby sampleandhold » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:28 am

Reading though my old posts?

Well... I am glad I was able to help.

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Postby jbuonacc » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:31 pm

hehe, yeah. before i got the E-mu i read through almost every old post on this site (over 50 pages of posts?) that looked like they might be of interest to me. good reading.
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