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DIY SCSI External Hard Drive

Postby xplizit » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:00 pm

so i need a hard drive for my e6400 classic and i think i'm going to go the external scsi route but i can only find a US ebay shop that does them and inc postage it's going to end up being quite expensive (i'm in the uk)

i'm thinking it can't be that hard to do it myself but not sure what i'd need exactly...

firstly, what's the biggest size i can go for? (i have eos 3.0b)
and what kind of drive/enclosure/cable do i need?
and any good places online for that kind of stuff?

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Scsi drive

Postby sturoc » Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:25 pm

Hey X,

Firstly do a search on the forum for this info Here's what I did:
I believe for 3.0 it's a max of 9 gb ? Definitley upgrade that eos.
Find a local cumputer supply shop -surplus or used parts.
Usually these guys have gobs of drives around for very cheap. make sure it's SCSI
External case w/ power supply + cord.
scsi 50 pin cable (both ends ) to connect EMU to drive. That's it !

I found a dual drive rack in a shop that had a hard drive and cd rom in it. I have internals already in my E6400's. -I BACK UP everything.
My total expense back then for that was $45 usd.
Also standard Cd Rom drive w/ ext. case etc. should be pretty cheap as well (used).

Save yourself some money ck out the pc shops!

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Postby xplizit » Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:17 pm

thanks man

had a seach but found nothing :/

i think it'll have to be 9gb because i only have 1mb of os flash ram and as far as i understand that means i can't go any higher than os 3.0b

i've found an enclosure (free!!). it's meant for "standard" 50 pin scsi drives, as opposed to "wide" or "fast" ones. will that do or do i want a wide/fast one?

seen a few 9gb scsi drives going relatively cheap on ebay but don't know whether i need a standard one or a wide/fast one.
any idea?

cheers
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Hey

Postby sturoc » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:47 am

I would go for the standard drive,
fast drives are like 10,000 rpms which are pricey and you don't need it for this app.
Did ya ck in Ebay "computers and networking" you should see some stuff there. It's all standard computer hdware anyway for the EMU.
Yeah sounds like you can't go up to the 4.0 realm. There don't seem to be any available flash upgrades out there either .
one thing I always thought about was dumping the E6400s and going up to the Ultra models but it involves some time to do it.
Rather make the music!
Keeep me posted will help where I can.
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Postby xplizit » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:22 am

cheers :slayer:
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Postby nuts » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:02 pm

Hi, i have also a e6400 classic running eos 3.00b and i put an internal 18GB hard drive.

It's a new fujitsu drive i think (model man3184mc Ultra 160 scsi/sca2/lvd) and it needs a 50 pins adapter .

Note that it appears 7 times in the disk menu but that runs well.
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Re: Hey

Postby packrat » Mon May 08, 2006 10:20 am

sturoc wrote:I would go for the standard drive,
fast drives are like 10,000 rpms which are pricey and you don't need it for this app.

Actually, there is SCSI (4-5mb 50pin), SCSI-2(5mb 50pin), Fast SCSI-2(10mb 50pin), Fast Wide SCSI-2(20mb 68pin), Ultra SCSI (20mb 50pin), Ultra wide SCSI (40mb 68pin), then various chains of ultra-II and Ultra160, none of which are relevant.

So, in the case of SCSI 'fast' has a very specific meaning that doesn't relate to drive rpm.

Any SCSI, SCSI-2, SCSI-2 fast (50pin or narrow) drive will be fine in a standard 50-pin enclosure, and most Ultra narrow (again 50pin) SCSI drives will be fine too. Getting wide (68pin) drives to talk to narrow (50pin) controllers is a black art and can be very exciting.

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Postby packrat » Mon May 08, 2006 10:22 am

nuts wrote:Hi, i have also a e6400 classic running eos 3.00b and i put an internal 18GB hard drive.

It's a new fujitsu drive i think (model man3184mc Ultra 160 scsi/sca2/lvd) and it needs a 50 pins adapter .

Note that it appears 7 times in the disk menu but that runs well.


You might want to check the SCSI ID you set the drive to (in relation to the controller and anything else on the bus), and also whether the drive is capable of correctly terminating the high byte.

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Postby drayon » Wed May 10, 2006 5:28 pm

Dude, search posts by me from ages ago. Acard have an IDE-> SCSI case. basically drop in any ATA disk an then attach the case via SCSI to ta EMU...wikid cool cos ATA disks are cheap and easy.

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