E6400: no master effect

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E6400: no master effect

Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:40 am

Since I've got hold of an Emu and started exploring it further, I've discovered that I can't access the effects module. Where 'effects' option should be in Master there's random text, and if I press the FX button it just takes me to disk! I can use the effects in Cords, still, but I'm a bit of a newb so I dunno what's going on. Any help is greatly appreciated!

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no fx

Postby sturoc » Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:22 am

If it is an E6400 Classic ver. there are no effects in the unit . I think there was an f/x option card, But these units didn't have any as standard.
hope this helps,
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:48 am

thanks very much for the info. I don't really get it, though. I can use effects through Cords, but just not on Master (or is that how it's supposed to be?). If so, what am I missing out on?
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Postby sturoc » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:25 am

I am confused as well now ... Unlesss there is something hidden deep in cords in a E6400 There are no f/x in it.
We are talking bout reverb, flange etc.. type f/x ?
There is a manual floating around the download section of the website I believe , that should help.
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:24 am

cool. I'll check that out. the manual I have is for the ultra, I think.

the effects I've been able to use are a range filters/eq-morph/flanger/chorus/a range of stuff. even though it says no effects installed!
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Postby sturoc » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:36 pm

Just to make sure you have a E6400 (classic) or ULTRA ?
Ultra has f/x built in
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:08 pm

Yeah, it's deffo the classic! lol, I didn't know that wasn't meant to have any effects... you sure?
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Postby vermis_rex » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:05 pm

The original idea of the e6400 was that you bought it as a bare bones system, and then added the various upgrades as you needed (or could afford them, as the case may be). The effects board was one of the options on the original e6400 (Classic). It became a standard feature on the Ultra model e6400.

When you say you're accessing FX through cords... where exactly are you looking at these settings? By which I mean, can you describe the menu path to get to the FX settings you have? There are a range of real time filters/filter effects on the presets, which aren't connected with the FX board (and thus not connected with the FX settings in the Master section).
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:17 pm

:thumbs: yah, I'm just talking about the preset effects, here... I'm quite impressed by those filters so far, though

what does rfx add? many of those floating about?
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Postby vermis_rex » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:00 pm

The RFX-32 was a seperate FX upgrade board for the Ultra units. It can't be installed in the Classic units (and there are some issues with it's usability in the Ultra units).

The older effects board for the Classic units (model 6311, I think it was) just added fairly basic FX to the unit. It's the same arrangement as a lot of the Proteus units of the era: there's FX A and FX B, which can run seperately (parallel) or B->A (series). FX A was dedicated to reverb type effects. FX B added some chorus, flange, echo, delay and basic distortion. The effect parameters were very limited... it was really only useful for adding a little colour to otherwise lifeless samples. You'd get much farther (better control, more variety of effects, more simultaneous effects) with an external FX unit.

The filters... yeah, the morphing Z-plane filters were a big selling point of all E-mu products after the Morpheus synth module. The selection in the post-4.0 EOS is pretty good, with some powerful sound sculpting tools (although it lacks the third-plane filters that were in the Morpheus and UltraProteus modules). Whether automated with the LFOs or controlled in real-time, the filters kick ass.
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:51 am

thank you, that's very informative. what I get is just filters (inc, phaser) and a chorus (which isn't great). So what I need to get the master effects (A+B) is the Classic effects board? are they easy to come by? ...but I'm really better off with external FX, anyway? (kay, that's all I needa know :)
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Postby wigworld » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:43 am

Even the cheapest FX unit would give you better results than the classic effects board.
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:09 pm

edit: I got royally ripped off I think. I realised there obviously should be zplanes already there, but they're not. Is there any way I can go about adding them on? or something? can you find addones anywhere at all?... it my well be all my fault... but fuck evilbay :mrgreen:
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Postby vermis_rex » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:13 pm

Z-Plane filters are the filters you can access through the preset edit. They're part of the operating system, the basic software running on the sampler. It's not a question of adding them... if you have the sampler, you have z-plane filters.

What version of the operating system (EOS) are you running?
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Postby I AM THE QUEEN OF FRANCE » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:43 pm

oh, f'real?

it says "4.62" at startup... in preset edit there's a selection of low passes/band passes/high passes/eq and peak shelf morphs/phasers/flanger...
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