emusonacid! legacy

Hi all,

I've been trying to run ZoeOs on Win7 ... well, the software itself runs like a charm, but I can't get to see my e6400 Ultra to show up in the SMDI devices window. Thus I can't massively send samples to the sampler's RAM, which is one of the best features for me, as any of my patches embbeds hundreds of samples ...

As I have a CF reader on my Emu, I had thought of putting all the wavs on the CF, but didn't find a way to load all the samples in RAM in a simple & fast way (other than loading them one at a time) ...

Any Idea here ?
Searched for an ASPI driver for Win7, but found nothing ....

Thanx for helping out !

Olivier

Which SCSI interface are you using on your PC?
Have you tried a different SCSI cable (very common problem)?
Also, do you fully boot the E-mu first, then turn on the PC? (My computer never sees my E-mu unless I do this.)

BTW: is your CF card connected via IDE? I'm interested in trying this...

I own an adaptec 29320alp installed on Windows 7 x64.
The card is recognised, x64 driver is ok. My CF reader is a SCSI one. The SCSI IDs are set as follows :
- Adaptec SCSI card : ID #2
- e6400 Ultra : ID #3
- CF Reader : ID #4

I can even see the CF reader under windows explorer. The problems is only the SMDI transfer from ZoeOS (haven't tried with an other software yet) : the sampler is hunted OK by MIDI, but still no SCSI. By the way I have the "E-mu Emulator IV Processor Device" driver entry (not recognized, which is normal, exactly the same as it was on Windows XP).

Seems like an ASPI layer is missing but I can't find any ASPI for Windows 7 ...
Is this a conclusion that ZoeOS is unable to transfer samples the SMDI way in Win7 because of the lack of an ASPI layer on Win7 ?

Thanks for your reply by the way,

Olivier

Ah yes, ASPI on Windows 7... I think you're right - it won't work.

A very convoluted "workaround" which might actually be impossible:

- run OpenSMDI (a very old drag & drop SMDI transfer utility) on a separate Windows XP machine, connected to your E-mu
- network the XP/98 machine to your Windows 7 PC
- drag & drop files from Windows 7 onto OpenSMDI over the network (seems like there must be a way of doing this...)
- OpenSMDI sends them to your sampler

Like I said, convoluted. And not ideal, but it would let you work from your Windows 7 desktop.

If I can find another SCSI card, I'll try this with my retired PC.

I don't know if this would work, but what about the XP-mode in Win7 Pro?
Would it be possible to use the integrated XP-mode for getting ZoeOS working with the ASPI-driver again?

Another solution is to get one of these Emulator X3-versions for the reduced price.
As aerodrink is using an e6400 Ultra, maybe with EOS 4.70, it is possible to setup the presets with X3 and export the ".e4b"-bank to the CF-card.

Hello guys and thanks for your suggestions,

Surely a dual boot in XP mode would do the trick, but I can't resign to install an OS just for sending samples over SCSI to my sampler ... well at least I'd like to be sure there is no other way before doing it like that. Ommatidium : quite tricky, and currently my XP machine is too far from the sampler ... but I'll probably give it a try later.

Another way for me to do it would be to be load all the wav files into the sampler's RAM (without having to load them one at a time). I tried to do this on the sampler (e6400 Ultra / OS 4.7) but didn't succeed ... any other idea ?

I have not yet tried this with ZoeOS, but I have many old programs, including Recycle 2, working with an ASPI layer called FrogASPI, which translates ASPI to SPTI and successfully communicates with SCSI devices. I have this working under Windows 7 x64 with my E4 Platinum. You may have to manually install drivers for your sampler in the Device Manager; I used the generic CD-ROM drivers and it was then recognized by Recycle.

Give it a try: http://www.frogaspi.org/. You just have to rename the DLL file to WNASPI32.DLL and put it in your C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 folder.

Good luck and let us know if it works, as I will be trying this later myself.

Nice job !

What is your configuration - scsi card, pc type etc ?

M

I have an HP Pavilion Elite (it's debranded, so I don't actually know the model number) running Windows 7 x64.
I've gotten it working with 2 different SCSI cards (I upgraded!): the Adaptec 2940UW and now the Adaptec 29130.
Sampler is the Emu E4 Platinum.

Anyone else try this method?

Sugerfunk : there seems to be no x64 driver for the 2940UW on Win7; only 32 bit driver.
Do you confirm that you are in a full 64 bit environment ?
By the way, could you give us a link to the generic driver files, and eventually the method to install it ?

Thanks, I can't wait using my e6400 Ultra back again with my computer )

Olivier

Ok guys; I installed a dual boot on my computer to have XP and give it a new try.
Seems like it does not work (at least with my configuration : Core i7 + Asus P6T Deluxe v2) : I simply never get the "Emulator IV Processor Device" drivers installs described here :

http://www.tweakheadz.com/scsi_transfer ... ampler.htm

I'll check again all my SCSI IDs but it seems like I have no chance using SMDI back again ...

News : now everything's fine using my Asus P6T BUT : with the Adaptec AHA-2940UW. I confirm the 2904 isn't working (at least with the E-MU) on that motherboard.

The dual boot was definitely the way to go

Now I got ultra-fast transfer of samples from my PC to my E-Mu, plus the samples keep their names after transfer (which is not the case if you use MIDI transfer of wave files).

Quite a pain in the ass to succeed, but I don't regret

Cheers,

Olivier

This is a Desktop version you get running ?

I think a have to get now an MS-Laptop.....with SCSI ? and Serial Port ?

Has anybody an idear what are a good "running "Combination/Constilation.

Sorry i am a Mac_User......no idear about Asus WIN XP ( PRO ) VISTA Service PAck´s etc etc .....

Thanks

Hi,

You probably won't find any notebook with SCSI embeded (I don't think it ever existed), so I guess you'll have to go for a parallel / scsi or usb / scsi (if such exists!) or you name it /scsi interface. If you will to dedicate the notebook 100% to editing the E-Mu, I suggest you find a used one, even if it is a few years old it will perfectly do the trick (especially as it seems rather complicated to edit the E-Mu under Windows 7).

aerodrink wrote:Hi,

You probably won't find any notebook with SCSI embeded (I don't think it ever existed), so I guess you'll have to go for a parallel / scsi or usb / scsi (if such exists!) or you name it /scsi interface. If you will to dedicate the notebook 100% to editing the E-Mu, I suggest you find a used one, even if it is a few years old it will perfectly do the trick (especially as it seems rather complicated to edit the E-Mu under Windows 7).

I have been totally unable to get SMDI working with my Adaptec PCMCIA 1460A card (non-cardbus). Tried with both W2k and WXP - two different laptops. Some people have reported success with 1480 (cardbus version of the SCSI card).

XP gave the 7 iterations of the sample device in device manager, but the sampler wouldn't show up as a device in Sound Forge (ver 4.5).

W2k detects the sampler upon connect and prompts for driver, but doesn't do the 7 iterations. Says can't find a driver, then presents the finish button. After clicking "Finish", no more prompting, and no SMDI sampler device in SF.

Also tried 2940UA under W98. Got the 7 iterated prompts (and devices in device manager), but still no SMDI device in Sound Forge or AWave.

Will probably update to EOS 4.7 for FAT sneaker net. :(