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E-MU has officially released info on Emulator X
Check http://www.emu.com

emugonzo

And our good old trust worthy hardware samplers are gone from their product list on their site :-(

It's officially over

KennethA

When's the final EOS coming out?

EZman -
it's already out :( ... 4.7 forever...

so what are you guys saying?

you can't call up emu and order a new sampler?

i kind of think the reason this happen is because of pirating. the software really isn't that much cheaper, but you can make copies for real cheap and give it to all your mates. so why go and get a sampler if you can call up your mate and have him burn you kontact or whatever.

the music industry is starting to collapse because of it. movies may start to feel it too if connections get faster to the internet, and you can drop a two hour movie in a few minutes.

and people villify hip hop and drum and bass producers because we sample a break here, a vocal track there. shit, people have to worry about the pirating of software and music more then if i sample part of the matrix or something. i mean these people are stealing things that range from 20 dollars up to a 4 or 5 hundred dollars.

i could be wrong, and most of you may think i am nuts. but this is how i have seen things.

looks like i am going to call emu next week when i have time and ask them what there plans are on the samplers. they better still make them, even on special order. if not, then they are indeed stupid. especially when if they alienate those of us who use the samplers so much and have fallen in love with them. i would be one to drop them if the support goes off. i wouldn't buy a damn thing from them in spite.

interesting thing... akai just released a new sampler... roland has a new sampler out as well. and these pups are really spendy. at least the new roland.

man, i am actually kind of depressed by this...

oh, about EOS, i'm not sure 4.7 is it. we had such a big push to tell EMU we wanted at least a bug free 4.7 that i think we may have started some progress. at least Razmo seems to think so here:
viewtopic.php?t=346&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

he says EMU told him something will be in the works, but i told him to not believe it just yet

we should all maybe stay w/ bugging EMU every week or so asking about a new EOS and maybe we'll have to organize something to push for it again? i'm down. if we ALL bug them, after a while they'll do it.

sampleandhold wrote:so what are you guys saying?

you can't call up emu and order a new sampler?

nope, they're like 99% GONE as far as i understand. no E4 platinums, E4XT's, they may have ONE or TWO E6400's or E5000's left but that's it. production has stopped long ago. you can still find them on Ebay and crap like that and for dirt cheap now too.

side note: i'm almost sure this new software doesn't control an E4 either.

the one thing i'm wondering about is if the proprietary EMU file format will change? meaning will our old CD-ROMS (not that many even use them) work on the new software and will new CD-ROMS for the EMU X work on our old (:grumble:) E4's? we could get some cool, up to date new CD-ROMS at least!

sampleandhold wrote:looks like i am going to call emu next week when i have time and ask them what there plans are on the samplers.

mmmm, good luck. i did hear once, can't remember where, that they will still probably release ONE hardware sampler sometime in the future. i think someone at EMU told me that...(??)

anyhow, i just got my E4XT Ultra and it kicks ass, and i would not even want this new software shit had i the money for it! i'm sure the E4 will be a sufficient piece of gear for at least a few more years. (of course, when computers finally get insanely speedy, dirt cheap, and super stable, look out...it'll be all over for hardware compeletely)

sampleandhold wrote:interesting thing... akai just released a new sampler... roland has a new sampler out as well. and these pups are really spendy. at least the new roland.

where did you see these? Akai sucks, in my experience...good for some things...(i guess). i dunno, my S5000 sucked ass compared to my E4. And Roland, i won't even go there.

I'm interested what else gets released at NAMM. Our homey Klaseed is there and will tell us next week fo sho.

I just wonder what people will use for playing live now - the Emulator X system is on a PCI card, so it won't fit into a laptop.

Man, it doesnt even list the upgrade kits for any of the E4 line either.

SO where do we get RFX's now if we dont have one? Im sure they still have to have them.

Its almost cheaper to sell my 6400 ultra and just get a platinum.

i read about it in a catalog from pro sound. they had this little laptop thing they were releaseing. it was the mpc1000 or something like that. and the roland sampler is in there as well, but it is a sampler keyboard combo thing.

maybe i can find a few emu on ebay, and if they are cheap enough, get one.

also, i haven't seen this yet... how much is the emulator x going to cost? i can't seem to find it on the web site.

oh and about the eos, i will support that too. that is one of the reasons why i haven't upgraded. just don't want to deal with all the bugs.

thekrispdj wrote:Man, it doesnt even list the upgrade kits for any of the E4 line either.

SO where do we get RFX's now if we dont have one? Im sure they still have to have them.

there's still a link for the 'on sale accessories' on the EMU homepage. it takes you here:
http://www.emu.com/shop/shopcategory.asp?category=329

thekrispdj wrote:Its almost cheaper to sell my 6400 ultra and just get a platinum.

Yeah, I've thought the same, but remember you can't get them from EMU anymore!

i just read that the program looks to support the old formats that our emu's use. also appearantly there are also 50 z plane filters avaliable. this is possible i suppose because you actualy get that card with the box. it must have that "h-chip" or whatever.

the studio cost 599. that is almost through away money. i am really interested in this now. the propaganda is a little to vague though. i am going to call them monday and get the real story. i run an old version of cakewalk that a friend of mine is testing out on an xp machine. if the program takes it, along with my darla, assuming i even need the darla anymore... i think i might go for it.

of course this means that we need a new addition to the forum. i kind of have the feeling that i might intergade the emu sampler with the software this way if i go for it. i am really interested in the fact it has a synthesizer already in there. use my sampler for beats, and the rest can come from the software. huh, perhaps i don't even need my cakewalk anymore... interesting.

the damn thing comes with a turntable input as well. and it has 24 bit/192khz sample rate. it seems to have everything that emu samplers have. this might just be the easy way to get my samples of my zip drive.

i think an external hd would work well for back up too. if i get it, i will tell you all and say how i like it. and i hope if any of you guys go for it, you would do the same.

i want more info before i go for it...

sampleandhold wrote:i just read that the program looks to support the old formats that our emu's use. also appearantly there are also 50 z plane filters avaliable. this is possible i suppose because you actualy get that card with the box. it must have that "h-chip" or whatever.

No it doesn't have the H-Chip that powers the Z-Plane filters in the E4's. It has a NEW E-Chip but this only powers FX much like the R-Chip powers the RFX card. It appears the Host CPU in the computer powers the voicing and the filtering in this software. I fear this thing WON'T sound like our beloved hardware, in fact ill bet my balls it wont!!!

the studio cost 599. that is almost through away money. i am really interested in this now. the propaganda is a little to vague though. i am going to call them monday and get the real story. i run an old version of cakewalk that a friend of mine is testing out on an xp machine. if the program takes it, along with my darla, assuming i even need the darla anymore... i think i might go for it.

This is incredibly cheep, if i used Windowz i'd buy it just to check out these NEW Z-Plane filters. However, there is no fsckin way im gona be forced to run a POS dumbassed Microsoft OS to run this hardware.

i am really interested in the fact it has a synthesizer already in there. I use my sampler for beats, and the rest can come from the software. huh, perhaps i don't even need my cakewalk anymore... interesting.

whahhh?? do the rest with software? bah fsck that shiot....the E-MU is THE BASS MACHINE.....lol im loosing it at u dude hahaha. Sure use soft for pads/synths eg Atmosphere...but bass uh ah.

the damn thing comes with a turntable input as well. and it has 24 bit/192khz sample rate. it seems to have everything that emu samplers have. this might just be the easy way to get my samples of my zip drive.

Yeah that is sik, wikid idea BO!!

i want more info before i go for it...

Like wot? Its a sound card that can be used with any app, it has ASIO drivers, it can be used with the EmulatorX software. U can sample directly from dex, CD' hrm anywhere. U can load your banks up, it has DSP for realtime FX probably more powerful than RFX, it comes with 500 FX presets, plugins will be developed in future, RFX plugs may be ported to it. It has a shitload of NEW Z-Plane filters (proly worth the askin price alone) it has very high quality convertor topology and a comfortable supply of analog I/O. It won't sound badassed like your Hardware but im sure it would be a superb addition to any setup.

What else do u need to know?

If there wasn't a better OS in the mainstream and i actually had to use that POS M$ OS and actually liked it, i would certainly be placing an order for the 1820M. There really is NOTHING on the market that offers this much for the price.

I don't understand how u can read all the info provided an still consider it 'Vague' There is more than u need to know dude....go listen to it next!!

i just have some specific questions. it says you have to have 2000 or xp. but it really doesn't say anything about processor speed and ram requirements. at least i couldn't find it. also need to know if i can run it with cakewalk. i would think so, but you never know. since i run an older version.

it does sound like i can get away with retiring my darla. and maybe even my i/o magic midi card. i thought i read the thing has midi in's and out's. that might just make setting it up more user friendly. also it would make things easier if from some stupid reason xp doesn't support my darla, or whatever.

about the z planes, i always heard that they needed that special cheap in order to have z planes, and i figured that the soundcard had that when i read the z plane filter bit.

has anyone heard sound demos? i am going to guitar center today, (waste of time) to see if they have (they don't even have wavelab 4.0) the emulator there and possibley have a demo running of it. it really is a good deal though.

the only thing that they better have on this: a q that you can modulate. i am still running 4.01 on my emu, and they god knows why didn't make it so you can modulate the q. so stupid.

oh and you are right. i will use my emu hard for bass and drums.

i have no idea what i was thinking...